Minutes 2004

	Pacific Palisades Community Council

For minutes of Board meetings in 2004, select meeting date.

January 8th
January 22nd
February 12th
February 26th
March 11th
March 25th

April 8th
May 13th
May 27th
June 10th
June 24th
July 22nd

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Minutes for Meeting of January 8, 2004

Board Members in Attendance:

George Wolfberg, Normal Kulla, Gilbert Dembo, Harry Sondheim, Paul Glasgall, Ted Mackie, Patti Post, Margaret Goff, Steve Lantz, Christine Deeter, Larry Jacobs, Mark Kremer, Sam Stigler, Stuart Muller, Michael Kane, Mary Cole, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Norma Spak

1. Introduction of Board and Audience

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Community Room of the Pacific Palisades Public Library. Paul Glasgall read the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws.Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2. Adoption of Minutes

Approval of the minutes for the meeting on December 11, 2003 was deferred.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
Patti Post was delayed and the chair gave her report. As of December 11, 2003 the balance in the Checking account was $8,409.23 and the Savings was $4,785.55.

3.2 Organizational Representatives and Alternates: No update.

3.3 Announcements from Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office, Officer Ragsdale, Area Organizational and other government Representatives:

Monique Ford introduced Councilwoman Miscikowski's new aide Andrea Epstein.

LAFD Battalion Chief Daryl Arbuthnott, accompanied by his assistant Joe W. Hill, announced that Battalion Chief Dennis Waters and Inspector Stolp would appear at January 22 Board meeting to discuss the fire threat to the Palisades posed by 25 years of brush accumulation.

It was announced that the Palisades branch of the American Legion was providing a new flag at the library to replace the one that was recently stolen.

4. Old Business

4.1 Continued consideration of proposed reversible lane improvement on Sepulveda:
Senior Traffic Engineer Kang Hu and Traffic Engineer Ken Husting of the Regional Surface Transportation Improvements Division of LADOT made a presentation in support of reversible lane improvement project between vicinity of Getty Center Drive to Skirball Drive. Mr. Hu and Mr. Husting argued the improvement would relieve traffic congestion and improve the safety of bicycle transit.
Appearing in opposition were Aaron Kirsch and Susan Gans from Citizens for a Safe Sepulveda. After extensive discussion, serious questions remained about whether or not the project would enhance or reduce the safety of bicycle traffic and vehicular traffic generally on Sepulveda. Also, the scope of project appeared too limited to attain its intended purpose of reducing traffic congestion. It was noted that traffic expert Barry Kurtz and Transportation Advisor Steve Lantz opposed the project.
Norman Kulla renewed his motion to oppose the project continued from the December 11 Board meeting to obtain input from Marguerite Mautner Perkins renewed her second.
The motion carried 9 in favor, none opposed, with 2 abstentions.

4.2 Update from ad hoc Dog Park Committee and announcement from representative supporting a dog park at a beach in Santa Monica: Deferred.

4.3 Proposed revisions to Community Service Award Guidelines: Deferred.

4.4 Temescal Canyon/YMCA Update: Deferred.

5. New Business

5.1 Criminal activity, vicinity of El Medio-Erskine; Community meeting held December 15, 2003, Report by Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale:
Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale, accompanied by Reserve Officer Mark Dundore, introduced Captain Mike Chambers, commanding officer of LAPD West Los Angeles Division. Officer Ragsdale distributed to the board a seven-page handout plotting on a map the crime in Pacific Palisades for the month of December 2003; a map plotting crime by basic car response for December, 2003 for WLA (excluding Pacific Palisades); a description of crime by crime type for the month of December 2003 for Pacific Palisades, and a like report for WLA as a whole for the week 12/28/03 to 1/3/04; and basic car map for area patrolled by seven basic cars assigned for patrol in WLA. After briefly describing the handouts, Captain Chambers then made a brief statement to the effect that: LAPD agrees that additional police should be deployed; however, given the police deployed to WLA, the Pacific Palisades gets its fair share. Of the neighborhoods in the 64 square miles in the division, Pacific Palisades is the safest.
The Captain then discussed the two recent most serious crimes. Two male Hispanics driving a silver Pathfinder were responsible for one incident and they are the subjects of an investigation involving several communities. The other the Captain believes was committed by a male black and was an isolated incident. Captain Chambers discussed that car doors, house doors and alarms should be set to make more difficult property crimes of opportunity, which he described as the most prevalent form of theft.
He announced that he will explore initiating "motorized foot beat" in the Palisades beginning the end of January 2004, where officers are on patrol, but "off the radio" (so not pulled out of area).
He also announced that temporarily he has one additional Senior Lead Officer available in the division who will be assigned to the Palisades. This will probably increase coverage 4 to 5 hours per day in the Palisades.

Questions were then taken from the Board and audience. The discussion was extensive; covering the recent Miami Way attempted robbery, whether or not there is ongoing gang activity (transitory occasionally with no permanent presence in Palisades), graffiti, and seasonal cyclical nature of recent crimes (crime tends to increase during period between Thanksgiving and New Years), co-operation with LAUSD police and private security. Two key points emerged: the community felt strongly it was entitled to increased visible police presence in the community; the allocation of police was being adversely impacted by budgetary constraints.

Norman Kulla moved, and Marguerite Mautner Perkins seconded, a motion for the Chair to direct a letter to our Councilwoman that expresses the Board's support for a 24/7 police presence in Pacific Palisades, and if budgetary constraints require increased revenue for the City of Los Angeles to do so, this community supports increasing revenue if dedicated to public safety.
The motion passed 6 in favor, 2 opposed, with 4 abstentions.

5.2 Proposed vehicle access gate (s) - Asilomar:
Numerous neighbors appeared in opposition to installation of a gate on Asilomar proposed to enhance public safety. Dr. Mark Kelly stated that his proposal for a gate was misconstrued; the matter was only in the investigative or exploratory stage. He stated that LAPD had proposed the gate in response to his proposal for installation of a turnaround. Senior Lead Officer Ragsdale stated there had been no reportable crimes on the bluff, against either person or property. He stated that he believed concerns were quality of life or nuisance type problems related to public use of the bluff.
A number of neighbors indicated that they had not been consulted about Dr. Kelly's efforts and wanted to be included in the process to find solutions to any ongoing concerns. There was general agreement to such effect and matter will continue under study by the Council office and the City.

5.3 Requested guardrail installation on Palisades Drive: Deferred.

Meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m.

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Minutes of Board January 22, 2004

Board Members in Attendance:

George Wolfberg, Carl Mellinger, Gilbert Dembo, Arthur Mortell, Barry Kurtz, Ted Mackie, Patti Post, Kurt Toppel, Barbara Kohn, Christina Porter, Larry Jacobs, Michael Kane, Harry Sondheim, Stuart Muller, Stephi Magur, Paul Glasgall, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Norma Spak, Louis Cozolino

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. at the Library Community Room.Michael Kane read the purpose of the Community Council.Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes

Minor corrections were made to the minutes for the meeting of December 11, 2003.The minutes for January 8, 2004 were approved as presented.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
Patti Post reported that as of November 3, 2003 the balance in the Checking account was $4,785.55 and the Savings was $8,900.40.

3.2 Organizational Representatives & Alternates: Deferred

3.3 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowski's Office: Kevin Keller, the new chief planning deputy in the council office attended. His number is 213-485-3811 and email at kjkeller@council.lacity.org.

3.4 Parking Enforcement at Pali Elementary:
Arthur Mortell stated that the city is not allowing parents to park in the no parking area in front of Palisades Elementary, and stated that it is necessary for them to do so in order to pick up their children.Gilbert Dembo suggested that the street be made one way because the busses are stacked on both sides making it impossible to get by. This subject will be addressed at a future council meeting.

3.5 Larry Jacobs reported that on Monday the 26th there will be a meeting of the Tourism and Entertainment City Council Committee and there has been no notice on the City Council Meeting Agendas.

3.6 Cancer Society:
George Wolfberg announced that there would be a fundraising relay race meeting at 870 Monument on Monday, January 26

3.7 Parking Enforcement:
George reported receiving a letter from a Palisades resident complained that they were having difficulty getting parking enforcement on Antioch on Sundays.The letter was given to Mo Blorfroshan from DOT for follow up.

4.0 Old Business:

4.1 Proposed revisions to Community Service Award Guidelines. Deferred.

4.2. Presentation of Plans for Palisades Landmark Condominium Project

Ken Kahan a Developer with California Landmark presented his intentions to develop the area known as 17331 Tramonto Drive into an 82-unit condominium project, which will involve the demolition of an existing 20-unit apartment building.He stated that the company purchased the property in 1999 and has spent the time since the purchase obtaining entitlements and stated the process took approximately two years longer than expected because of the unstable condition of the hillside. The development of the proposed project will include a fix for the eventual landslide that will occur if nothing is done to prevent it.

Mr. Kahan, his attorney, Ben Resnick (a land use attorney) and JBZ Architects involved gave an overview of the project and the environmental impact report (EIR) and stated that the architectural company had extensive experience with hillside projects and showed photographs of their most recent hillside projects.

Mr. Resnick reported that the project would be heavily conditioned upon the EIR. In response to many questions regarding the geological impact of the project it was suggested that those questions be directed to the geologists that were involved in the EIR.Although it was noted that the safety of the upslope homes was there number one concern when addressing the issue of removing replacing the dirt during construction.

There were concerns voiced in regard to the planned haul route when removing the dirt from the site. Mr. Kahan and Mr. Resnick stated that the haul route would be assured every one that the utmost care and consideration would be taken to mitigate any inconvenience caused by the dust, traffic and noise caused by the construction.Mr. Resnick requested that the community members who are concerned about the existing condition of the road and how it will hold up to the increased use during construction suggest a solution.
Mr. Resnick noted that there will be no affordable housing in this project explained the ins and outs of how development and affordable housing work and informed the council that Landmark has opted to take advantage of its ability to defer this requirement to another project as allowed in the affordable housing rules.

Barbara Kohn asked if Landmark would be working with the developer of the 29 condo unit (Palmer Project) on Castellammare at the foot of the slope. as the 29 units are at the bottom of the slope are the two developments being considered together with regard to the stabilization of the slope as presented at a previous Community Council Meeting Mr. Ben Resnick represents the Palmer Project as well as Landmark. Kohn also referenced three new single family residences projects at the top of the slope, on Revello. Mr. Kahan answered that the two projects (Palmer and Landmark) are not connected in any way but that they would cooperate as needed to assure safety, etc. to the neighborhood. The geologist for both projects is John Irvine of The Byer Group.

There will be 130,000 cubic yards of dirt removed and 100,000 cubic yards that will replace it.It is estimated that it will take 25 truck trips per day during peak hours and 85 trips at other times.It was stated that the project would be competed in 18 to 20 months from now.

There were many concerns about the communitys ability to communicate with the developer during construction. Among other remedies, a bond or an escrow account between the developer and the community to insure that any problems are dealt with appropriately. It was suggested that there be a meeting between the developer, the geologist and all interested parties to address all of their concerns.The Chair will furnish email address to the developer so he can arrange these meetings.

4.3 Requested guardrail installation on Palisades Drive: Deferred.

4.4 Temescal Canyon / YMCA Update: Deferred.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Report from LA City Fire Department on fire hazard reduction in the Palisades:Division Commander A.C. Purvis and Battalion Chief Dennis Waters attended along with Inspector Lori Stolps.Chief Waters gave a detailed explanation on how and why the Palisades is at such high risk.He noted that we have 4 medium water-carrying helicopters and two heavy lifts that carry a greater load. It was noted that parking in our neighborhood is critical to fire safety. Residents must make sure that there is room for the fire trucks to pass by.This is particularly noticeable when trucks involved with construction block access.Monique Ford said that it is the Street Use Inspectors job to make sure that the trucks are complying with the rules.Marguerite Perkins Mautner will follow up with Monique Ford on this issue.

Chief Waters and Inspector Stolps furnished hand outs addressing the brush clearance issue and stated that if your property is noncompliant it is possible to get a fine of $242 and if you still dont comply the FD will hire someone to do it and charge you as much as $715.

Chief Waters phone number is 310.575.8509 if you need to call regarding the fire danger of certain roof materials.
There was discussion about the difficulty of coordinating brush clearance with the properties that have boundaries with State owned properties.According to Inspector Stolp the State will not fund brush clearance of its properties.Glenn Olson is the person who deals with the State on these matters.Apparently the FD has been trying to get the State to deal with this for years.

Walt Young of the MRCA - SMMC reported that this year and in the future the SMMC has the funding to do the brush clearing up to the City Standards.The city standard is 3,200 feet from any structure.Fire assessment districts will now be cleared to the City Standards.Caveats:Some selected parcels where the slope is too steep, the mudslide and rock slide danger of removing the brush out weigh the fire danger.If the owners do not remove their brush first then the City cannot get to the brush they have to remove.

5.2 Temescal Canyon Parking Restrictions (Sunset to Bowdoin):

After presenting a background summary, Stuart Muller made the following motion, which was seconded by Kurt Toppel:The Pacific Palisades Community Council requests that City of Los Angeles DOT install Tow Away-No Parking Midnight to 5 a.m. daily signs along Temescal Canyon Road from Sunset Blvd. to the Los Angeles City Temescal Canyon Park and that City of Los Angeles Parking Enforcement and Police Department diligently enforce all parking restrictions along all of Temescal Canyon Road, from Sunset to the Pacific Coast Highway.
After much discussion regarding whether large commercial trucks and RVs will once again take advantage of parking overnight in this area now that Aldersgate lodge and the Pacific Palisades Womans Club have successfully petitioned to have overnight parking restrictions removed from the areas adjacent to their properties.

Margerite Mautner moved to table the motion. It was agreed that this subject will be revisited in three months in that there are apparently no violations being committed at this time. Bill Damerall, the manager of Aldersgate Lodge, offeredto monitor and address the issue on an individual, vehicle by vehicle basis. Mo Blorfroshan of LA DOT agreed to replace the parking restriction signs that DOT mistakenly removed on the east side of Temescal Canyon Rd between Bowdoin St and Haverford Ave.

Meeting was adjourned at 9:40 PM.

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Minutes of February 12, 2004

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

George Wolfberg (Chair), Arthur Mortell, Patti Post, Harry Sondheim, Steve Lantz, Norm Kulla, Norma Spak, Larry Jacobs, Todd Ferrier, Stuart Muller, Jean Gold Friedman, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Mary Cole, Ted Mackie, Louis Cozolino, Michael Kane, Stephi Magur,

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

Chairman George Wolfberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. and appointed a board member to read the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes

The Minutes of the meeting of January 22, 2004 were adopted with the following changes:
(See revised paragraphs at end of these minutes.)

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported that there is $9,060.40 in the PPCC checking account and $4,787.17 in the savings account.

3.2 Organizational Representative and Alternatives:
No announcement..

3.3 Announcements from Councilwoman Miscikowskis office, Officer Ragsdale:
No Representatives Present.

3.4 Temescal Dumping:
Stuart Muller announced that dumping of wood on the sidewalks of Temescal Canyon road has resumed.

3.5 City Budget:
Norman Kulla updated the Board regarding the February 19th LA City meeting over the Budget..

3.6 Water Treatment:
February 26th Bureau of Sanitation meeting regarding water treatment announced. No volunteers to attend.

4.0 Old Business:

4.1 Proposed revisions to Community Service Award Guidelines (Jeannie Gold Chair):
Norman Kulla made the motion to adopt proposed changes and Marguerite seconded. Motion passed. (Approved Guidelines attached.).

4.2 Requested guardrail installation on Palisades Dr.:
Norman Kulla withdrew this item.

4.3 Citywide Alliance Sponsorship:
The Board voted to support Norman Kullas motion, with Mary Cole's second, to have the PPCC co-sponsor a forum with the Citywide Alliance regarding crime and the City budget..

4.4 Transportation and Senior Center Questionnaire Results:
Carol Hurley briefed the Board on the data collected from the Questionnaire co-sponsored by PPCC and Palisades AARP. The questionnaire was sent out to 11,000 households with the last newsletter. Steven Lantz will assist the committee in compiling the results to determine the next course of action. Results are posted on the PPCC website or contact Milton Weiner @ 310-454-3329..

4.5 Dog Park:
No Announcement..

4.6 Temescal Canyon/YMCA Update:
Announcement regarding postponed Coastal Commission Hearing and City Attorney Review of parceling process.

5.0 New Business:

5.1 Presentation by California Wildlife Center:
Joint-presentation by Glenda Singer of the Center and by Michelle Cullens Director of Conservation Programs of the Mountain Lion Foundation who showed a Powerpoint presentation on the lions who live in California and gave tips on how we, as a community, can learn to co- exist with native wildlife including the two mountain lions that live in our area and coyotes. For detailed information visit www.mountainlion.org or call 310-454-1395 On The Edge.

5.2 PPCC April Meeting Schedule:
The Board voted to hold one official meeting in April; on the 8th. Members were encouraged to attend the Community Service Award event on the 29th. [former board member Mike Skinner will be honored for his inspirational work in spearheading the community-funded development of the Palisades Recreation Center Field of Dreams project.

Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 9:15pm
Submitted by Acting Secretary Arthur Mortell on 3/2/04.

Corrected paragraphs from minutes of January 22, 2004 [changed passages are italicized].

Presentation of Plans for Palisades Landmark Condominium Project: Ken Kahan a Developer with California Landmark presented his intentions to develop the area known as 17331 Tramonto Drive into an 82-unit condominium project, which will involve the demolition of an existing 20-unit apartment building. He stated that the company purchased the property in 1999 and has spent the time since the purchase obtaining entitlements and stated the process took approximately two years longer than expected because of the unstable condition of the hillside. The development of the proposed project will include a fix for the eventual landslide that will occur if nothing is done to prevent it..

Mr. Kahan, his attorney, Ben Resnick (a land use attorney) and JBZ Architects involved gave an overview of the project and the environmental impact report (EIR) and stated that the architectural company had extensive experience with hillside projects and showed photographs of their most recent hillside projects.Mr. Resnick reported that the project would be heavily conditioned upon the EIR. In response to many questions regarding the geological impact of the project it was suggested that those questions be directed to the geologists that were involved in the EIR. Although it was noted that the safety of the upslope homes was there number one concern when addressing the issue of removing replacing the dirt during construction..

There were concerns voiced in regard to the planned haul route when removing the dirt from the site. Mr. Kahan and Mr. Resnick stated that the haul route would be assured every one that the utmost care and consideration would be taken to mitigate any inconvenience caused by the dust, traffic and noise caused by the construction. Mr. Resnick requested that the community members who are concerned about the existing condition of the road and how it will hold up to the increased use during construction suggest a solution..

Mr. Resnick noted that there will be no affordable housing in this project explained the ins and outs of how development and affordable housing work and informed the council that Landmark has opted to take advantage of its ability to defer this requirement to another project as allowed in the affordable housing rules.>Barbara Kohn asked if Landmark would be working with the developer of the 29 condo unit (Palmer Project) on Castellammare at the foot of the slope. as the 29 units are at the bottom of the slope are the two developments being considered together with regard to the stabilization of the slope as presented at a previous Community Council Meeting Mr. Ben Resnick represents the Palmer Project as well as Landmark. Kohn also referenced three new single-family residences projects at the top of the slope, on Revello. Mr. Kahan answered that the two projects (Palmer and Landmark) are not connected in any way but that they would cooperate as needed to assure safety, etc. to the neighborhood. The geologist for both projects is John Irvine of The Byer Group..

There will be 130,000 cubic yards of dirt removed and 100,000 cubic yards that will replace it. It is estimated that it will take 25 truck trips per day during peak hours and 85 trips at other times. It was stated that the project would be competed in 18 to 20 months from now.There were many concerns about the communitys ability to communicate with the developer during construction. Among other remedies, a bond or an escrow account between the developer and the community to insure that any problems are dealt with appropriately.It was suggested that there be a meeting between the developer, the geologist and all interested parties to address all of their concerns. The Chair will furnish email address to the developer so he can arrange these meetings..

Revised February 12, 2004.

COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD GUIDELINES.

PURPOSE:.

The purpose of the Community Service Award is to honor long term and continuing outstanding volunteer service by an individual to a Pacific Palisades neighborhood or to the community-at-large..

GUIDELINES:.

Nominations:.

Any organization or individual in the community may nominate a candidate. There is no limit on the number of nominations an individual/organization may submit. Only nominations submitted specifically for this award are eligible for consideration, although the nomination may be supported by materials written for other awards. Nominations must be submitted in writing to the Chair of the Pacific Palisades Community Council at PO Box 1131 or by email to the Chair of the PPCC in accordance with the time frame suggested below..

Community Service Award Committee:.

The Chair shall appoint a Committee of not less than three (3) current members to review the nominations and select one or more persons to receive the Award. Prior to the Committee selecting persons for the Award, the Committee Chair shall circulate by E-Mail to other current members of the Board a list of those persons who have been nominated and ask that if any member of the Board desires to submit comments about any nominee, they should submit any comments to the Committee Chair within five days..

Recipient:.

The recipient must be an individual. Each recipients service should be of a voluntary nature and not merely the beneficial outcome of official or business-related work that the recipient is engaged in..

The Award: The award shall be chosen and prepared by the Committee and presented to the Recipient(s) at the Annual Pacific Palisades Community Council December Pot-luck Meeting. The Recipient(s) and their family members shall be guests of the PPCC. The Palisades Americanism Parade Association [PAPA] shall be notified of the names of recipients so they may be included in the Annual July 4 Parade. (Notify PAPA @ PO Box 1776, PP 90272).

SUGGESTED TIME FRAME:.

First October Meeting:.
Distribute Award Guidelines and discuss the Award. Submit Press Release to relevant publications soliciting nominations. Second October Meeting: Appoint Nomination Committee:.

Deadline for receipt of nominations: The Saturday after the second Thursday in November..

November Meeting: Committee announces award winner(s), notifies the winner(s), notifies the Press (including Santa Monica Mirror, Brentmedia Publication (90272), Palisadian-Post and other local media if appropriate) and the Board of Governors.
Winners are invited to the December Meeting Pot-luck. Award Presentation.

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Minutes of Board February 26, 2004

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
Patti Post reported that as of March 4, 2004 the balance in the Checking account was $7,913.77 and the Savings was $4,707.93.

3.2 Organizational Representatives & Alternates Selection Update:
On motion Of Kurt Toppel, seconded by Gil Dembo, Steve Boyers was unanimously approved as Area 7 Alternate.

3.3 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office:
Kevin Keller, the new chief planning deputy in the council office attended. His number is 213-485-3811 and email at kjkeller@council.lacity.org. Mr. Keller indicated that he was appearing for Monique Ford, who wished to report: 1) An ADA compliant wheelchair ramp has been approved and will be installed at Mt. Holyoke and Via de las Olas; 2) Landscaping enhancements at PCH & Temescal have been approved by Recretion. & Parks, but no start date has been announced; 3) The messaging Board at Pali Hi has been corrected to turn off at 7:30 p.m. Gilbert Dembo requested that the ten bus benches at Temescal & PCH be removed, which Mr. Keller promised to report to our Councilperson. There is also a potential no smoking at beach ordinance under discussion. The public hearing at City Planning for 17331-3 Tramonto will be held at 1:00 pm, Wednesday, March 17, 2004, in Room 1020 at 200 N. Spring Street, Los Angeles.

3.4 The Chair Announced:
He received a letter from Sharon Morrill of 530 Swarthmore opposing any dog park in the Palisades, which he referred to PaliDog liaison Norman Kulla; LA's Integrated Resources Plan (IRP) is holding a series of community meetings about alternative solutions for water, wastewater and runoff - call 323-342-6233 for attendance; the Pacific Palisades Garden Club is scheduled April 25, 2004 for this year's Garden Tour (for further information contact Linda Rosetti at 310-459-8751, or lindarosetti@hotmail.com; Complaints about construction activity for the Getty Villa project should be telephoned to (877) 625-4282. Thank you notes to the Board were received from Margaret Goff for flowers sent following her recent surgery and from Norma Spak and Frances Tebbits, Community Service Award winners; and nominations are being accepted for the Golden Sparkplug Award.

3.5 Citizen of the Year Dinner:
Bill Bruns announced that the Citizen of the Year Award will be presented to Mike Skinner who spearheaded the Palisades Field of Dreams project at a gala dinner to be held at the Riveria Country Club on April 29, 2004. The whole community is invited and every effort has been made to keep the cost of the dinner as reasonable as possible. Tickets are available from the Palisadian-Post.

3.6 EIDC:
Larry Jacobs reported that a group of neighborhood representatives had a productive meeting with Councilperson Martin Ludlow and that matters were moving in a positive direction.

3.7 New WLA Captain:
Patti Post reported that she had invited new WLA Captain Vance Proctor to visit with the PPCC but had not yet been favored with a reply.

3.8 Junior Women's Club Donation Acknowledged:
On the suggestion of Gil Dembo, seconded by Mary Cole, the Chair agreed to write a letter to the Junior Women's Club expressing the community's appreciation for their recycling their fundraising back into the community.

4.0 Old Business:

4.1 Presentation of Plans for Palisades Landmark Condominium Project:
Ken Kahan a Developer with California Landmark presented his response to community requests to modify his proposal to develop the area known as 17331 Tramonto Drive into an 82-unit condominium project, which will involve the demolition of an existing 20-unit apartment building. He stated he had established a Hotline to receive community input or complaints at 310-234-8880. The project has been redesigned to preserve view corridors for existing houses and condominiums. He stated that earth movement involving excavation and compaction will take approximately six months if construction begins at 7 a.m., but if the community prefers an 8:00 a.m. start time he will comply, but this will extend this phase construction by one to one and one-half months. They will provide a traffic flagman to address traffic during construction and install sensors triggering illumination on project property that will alert the traffic exiting from the project of approaching traffic coming down the hill. He will purchase and provide living air filters to all impacted residents to help control dust contamination during construction. He will also provide Friday sweeping of all impacted residents balconies, and upon inquiry, agreed to provide car wash vouchers and window washing weekly. He agreed to resurface potholes during construction and upon completion to repave from the project to Los Liones. If residents allow tiebacks on or under their property then they can be named as additional insured on Kahan's insurance policy to facilitate easier claims processing without litigation. Kahan explained that subsurface and surface water from Revello would be channeled to storm drains that will contain filters to be maintained by the homeowners association to form as part of his project.

Mr. Kahan presented a PowerPoint presentation outlining the foregoing. His architect, Eric Zuzick, AIA, presented a PowerPoint presentation regarding the view corridors. Dan Weedon, Kahan's landscape architect, explained the proposed landscaping. John Irvine of the Byer Group, Mr. Kahan's geologist answered questions from the audience. Mr. Kahan's attorney, Ben Resnick (a land use attorney) requested that the Board support the project. Barbara Kohn indicated her opposition and no motions to support the project were made. There was community opposition to the scope of the project and the risk the project presented to hillside homes in the vicinity of the project. Mr. Kahan was thanked by the Chair and one citizen in attendance for willingness to listen to the community and respond to express concerns.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Discussion of how the PPCC Board of Governors desires to receive input, if any, from candidates for the office of Councilmember from the 11th District for the term beginning July 1, 2005:
Barbara Kohn moved, and Gil Dembo seconded a motion to host a forum of the candidates six months prior to the election. There was consensus that it would be a good idea to hold a forum with candidates after the Presidential election. It was pointed out that the Presidential Election would be held in November 2004, and that the Councilmember election would be held in March 2005. The Chair suggested that it might be best to leave to the next Council responsibility for setting the format for how the candidates could address the concerns of community. Marguerite Perkins Mautner moved, and Larry Jacobs seconded, that the matter be tabled until after July 2004. It was unanimously agreed that the matter be tabled.

Meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.

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Minutes of Board March 25, 2004

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

George Wolfberg, Stephi Magur, Harry Sondheim, Arthur Mortell, Patti Post, Paul Glasgall, Christina Porter, Larry Jacobs, Barbara Kohn, Norma Spak, Stuart Muller, Norman Kulla, Mary Cole, Steve Boyers, Kurt Toppel, Michael Kane, Todd Ferrier, Louis Cozolino, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Margaret Goff, Ted Mackie, Jean Gold Friedman

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. The Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council was read by Council Secretary Christina Porter. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of February 26 were approved as corrected and the minutes of March 11, 2004 approved as submitted

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
Patti Post reported that as of March 25, 2004 the balance in the Checking account was $7,843.77 and the Savings was $4,787.93

3.2 Golden Sparkplug Award Update:
The Committee will include Larry Jacobs, Harry Sondheim and Ted Mackie. More appointments to be announced. The chairman announced that the deadline for receipt of nominations is March 27, 2004. There are 3 nominations so far.

3.3 Community Council Secretary:
The chairman announced the need for additional secretarial assistance for the council. He requested that any possible candidates contact him.

3.4 311 Program:
Chairman George Wolfberg reported a problem with the 3-1-1 City Services Hotline. Among other instances of failure, the one discussed at length was an incident that occurred in Palisades Basin at the junction of Temescal Fireroad and Trailer Canyon (Michael Road access). Kurt Toppel reported that there are power lines running through the canyon. At one particular time it was reported that there were sparks flying off of them, at which time a call to 3-1-1 failed to connect with the City. A city representative attending the meeting, David Dizon, reported that it was a problem with Verizon software and that you can even contact the 3-1-1 hotline via your cell phone from most areas when you have no success with the landlines. Mr. Dizon agreed to contact Verizon again to urge speedy restoration of the 3-1-1 service.

3.5 Riviera Speed Hump:
Marquerite Perkins Mautner reported that a resident in her area (the Riviera) reported that there had been a speed hump placed at the base of their entryway making it difficult for some people to safely access the walkway. The resident is now in the process of contesting its placement. Councilwoman Cindy Miscikowski explained the process of how the location of speed humps are chosen and approved. It was agreed that the placement of this particular speed hump had been an oversight and that the resident should pursue its relocation. Councilwoman Miscikowski gave suggestions on whom to contact.

3.6 DWP Proposed Changes to the Santa Ynez Reservoir:
Area 2 representative Norman Kulla reported that the DWP has requested a meeting to be held at the Summit Club on April 19, 2004 from 6:30 9:30 PM to discuss the proposed aesthetic changes (covering) to the reservoir that will be required when the chemical used to purify the water is changed from chlorine to Chloramine (Chlorine and Ammonia). There have been reports that Chloramine leads to a heightening of lead content due to the leaching of lead from some water pipes.

3.7 City Wide Alliance Meeting:
Norman Kulla reported that there would be a meeting of the City Wide Alliance on Saturday March 27, 2004 and at the annual NC Congress on Saturday May 22 2004. Councilman Antonio Villaraigosa and Sheriff Baca will both be speaking on a proposal LA County sales tax increase to fund additional law enforcement resources. Councilwoman Miscikowski stressed that a two-thirds favorable vote is required for passage.

3.8 Integrated Resources Plan Briefings:
Chairman George Wolfberg reported that the City is holding a series of briefings regarding alternative plans for infrastructure improvements to meet the anticipated higher governmental standards and increased quantity of wastewater and urban runoff in the next 20 years. George attended the first of the current series fo briefings on March 23 with more scheduled through April 7. He indicated that, depending on the alternative ultimately selected there could be and increase our annual property taxes from the current $24 per year to $204 to $228. In addition, the water bill surcharge for equipment of $21 per month could increase by $8 to $11. Councilwoman Miscikowski explained that the meeting was about improving the existing storm drain system. She said that the City wants an integrated resources program to make sure that the storm drains are cleaned up and that it will require a significant amount of money. There is consideration for a clean water bond to be put on the November ballot. Councilwoman Miscikowski stated that there is a great need for community support for such placement to occur. Chairman George Wolfberg reported that one alternative proposed is a storm drain runoff treatment plant in Santa Monica Canyon similar to the one now operating at the Santa Monica Pier. A local architect [Alejandro Ortiz] sent the City a sketch of a system that would include piping Santa Monica Canyon runoff out past the surf line. The proposal was forwarded to the IRP team and to Monique Ford of Councilwoman Miscikowskis office.

3.9 Temescal Canyon Road Storm Drain Replacement:
The Chairman also reported that LA County Bond Issues 500 and 501 will provide funds for the major improvement in August of the storm drain system located directly underneath Temescal Canyon and one just up the coast. This announcement provoked additional discussion on the coordination of projects between government agencies due to the waste of funds used to for the recent resurfacing of Temescal Canyon, which will have to be redone after the storm drain improvements. Councilwoman Miscikowski assured us that within the City there is a long standing process to coordinate such projects, but that sometimes projects of outside agencies, as in this case, fall through the cracks. Monique Ford will follow up to assure that the road is repaved. [This follow up revealed that all work will be performed via man hole access and the street will not be cut.]

3.10 Mail Box Thefts in Santa Monica Canyon:
It was reported by Chairman Wolfberg that there has been several thefts from homeowners mailboxes in Santa Monica Canyon and that the Police are investigating. If you have any information or questions regarding these thefts please contact George.

3.11 Proposed New Residence at 201 Entrada:
Chairman Wolfberg reported that a proposal 45 feet high residence was turned down by the Zoning Administrator.

3.12 17331-17333 Tramonto Drive:
Norma Spak stated that the time for comment to the City Subdivision Unit on the proposed development had been extended for two weeks.

3.13 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office, Officer Ragsdale, Area Organizational and other Governmental Representatives:
Councilwoman Cindy Miscikowski attended the meeting with her deputy Monique Ford. Although she participated in much of the meeting, the purpose of the visit was to discuss the City Budget, safety and other issues. Please see Old Business for details.

Power Outages: Monique Ford reported that she sent a letter to the manager of the DWP regarding the power outages during the most recent storm.

4.0 Old Business

5.0 New Business

5.1 Report from Recreation and Parks on water damage to Palisades Gymnasium Floor:
Valley Region Superintendent Kevin Regan appeared for the department along with maintenance supervisor James Ward and Steve Barklow of the Pacific Region. Mr. Regan reported that a gauge on the fire sprinkler system had become damaged as a result of basketball activities in the gym. There was a construction flaw in that the there were no guards on the exposed gauge and valves although Building and Safety had approved the plans for the facility. Park staff turned off the water within five minutes and called 9-1-1. Since the valve was below the gauge, water continued to flow as the system drained after staff closed the valve. The fire department was called and all hands worked to brush the water off of the floor and fans were activated to dry the floor for the next several days, but the floor was too wet to be saved and must be replaced at an estimated cost of $76,000.

Stuart Muller inquired about the placement of unprotected/exposed drinking fountains at each end of the gym floor and complained that a leaky roof had previously damaged the floor in the new gym and that the floor in the old gym had been ruined by water on two occasions. Mr. Regan stated that he could not justify past actions but that the department had made a thorough loss prevention survey of the facility to avoid future problems. The drinking fountains inside the gym will be removed.

In response to comments by Louis Cozolino, Mr. Regan indicated that a drain valve had now been installed above the gauge along with appropriate guards over the valves, gauges and sprinkler heads to avoid a future flood. Mr. Regan also stressed that he will guarantee these problems will never happen again. The estimated time to replace the floor is 60-90 days with extra time required because of the bleachers. Councilwoman Miscikowski is working with the department to obtain a funding advance from Proposition K to expedite the repair process.

Meeting was adjourned at 8:48 PM.

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Minutes of Board April 8, 2004

Members Present

George Wolfberg, Shephi Magur, Harry Sondheim, Patti Post, Robert Blake, Stuart Muller, Christina Porter, Maguerite Perkins Mautner, Barbara Kohn, Norma Spak, Norman Kulla, Mary Cole, Ted Mackie, Kurt Toppel, Louis Cozolino, Todd Ferrier, Margaret Goff

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. Area 4 Alternate Representative Robert Baker read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of March 25, 2004 were approved as corrected.,

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported there has been no change since the last meeting.

3.2 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office
Monique Ford reported that the DOT has decided to put a four-way stop sign at Haverford and Bowdoin and that there has been no more talk about making Haverford a one way street. The City requires that at least a 70% of the neighbors in the area must agree to the one-way street and the lead person does not think that can be accomplished.

The Department of Recreation and Parks is upgrading their reservation system at all of the parks. The current system is down and the new one will be implemented on April 12, 2004.

3.3 Officer Chris Ragsdale: Officer Ragsdale reported on the following:
a. There has been an arrest in the case of the mail thefts in Santa Monica Canyon. The perpetrator was tied to other burglaries in the area and a crime spree in Hollywood.
b. The Police Department has a citywide goal to reduce crime by 20% and encouraged us all to work together to accomplish this. He gave several examples of how citizens can help.
c. LAPD has been working with the Park Rangers in dealing with the transient population in our area. There is significant work and success in the Santa Monica Canyon and Chautauqua Areas.

3.4 The Golden Sparkplug Awards:
The Golden Spark Plug award winners were announced: Bob Jeffers and Dr. Roger Wood. Chairman Wolfberg extended thanks to Council Members Mary Cole, Ted Mackie, Larry Jacobs and Harry Sondheim for volunteering for the Selection Committee. Also thanked was Ted Mackie for obtaining the golden sparkplugs from Denton Jewelers. The plaques will be handed out at the Citizen of the Year Dinner at the Riviera Country Club on April 29, 2004.

3.5 Appointment of a Nominating Committee:
Per Article VII of the bylaws Patti Post (chairperson), Ted Mackie and Marquerite Perking-Mautner will be on the Nominating Committee. Nominations will be open until June 10, 2004 when the election of officers will be held. June 10 is also the last day for Area Representatives to submit written notice of intention that they will be running for a new term.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Captain Vance M. Proctor the West Los Angeles Area Commanding Office of LAPD:

a. The captain opened extending condolences to our community. There was a collision that killed two people on Temescal Canyon the previous Friday night. Monique Ford reported that the driver of the vehicle was on his cell phone and that there was a pending investigation. There was discussion on the Citys protocol regarding a fatal traffic accident. The Captain said that LAPD has been working with Council member Patti Post to find ways to get the community more involved in traffic control in our area and that the City is trying to train more officers on the radar gun.

b. The Captain explained that he is committed to keeping the second police car in the Palisades. He gave credit to senior lead officer Chris Ragsdale, explained what his duties are and how to contact him.

c. He stated that crime in the city was reduced by 20% last year even with a police force that is one of the most understaffed in the county. He stated we should have a minimum of 15,000 officers.

d. He handed out a sheet with crime statistics and stated that the Palisades is one of the safest communities in the City.

e. Crime Prevention Efforts:
It is the Captain's experience that Neighborhood Watch is the most effective crime prevention tool and the least expensive, and supported this view with several examples. Officer Ragsdale is working with the Palisadian Post to keep the community informed of any crime in the Palisades. There is currently an Email community alert system in place in the West Los Angeles Area with over 700 names. This was funded by an organization called PACT (police and community together). Edie Lear runs the program that provided the computers to get this system up and running.

f. Volunteer Surveillance Team:
It is the LAPDs intent to recruit 50 community members to keep an eye on certain locations in the area. This will entail bringing reserve officers to work with these volunteers and train them. At this time there are only seven reserve officers in the West LA area although the department is working on training more. Initially the volunteers will be working on school truancy and curfew violations. There was discussion on the expertise of reserve officers and the role they play.

g. Comstat:
This an idea brought in by Chief Bratton from New York. It is a computer schematic of all the areas in the community. The system facilitates communication among officers of all crime going on in their area to keep them focused and aware of crime trends that may change rapidly.

h.Federal Consent Decree:
This holds the Police force to a 95% compliance rate. It is currently taking up a good amount of the forces resources. They are working very diligently at this time to comply so they can free up those resources that are so desperately needed in other areas.

i. Web Cam Surveillance:
Chairman Wolfberg inquired about the LAPDs position on installing a web cam in the area and stated that it has been offered by one of the residents of the area where the arrest for the mail box thefts was made. Captain Proctor gave examples of other communities that have web cams and explained that they have to be positioned in public places with a person to monitor them. It was agreed that a time-lapse camera is a possibility.

j. Speed Trailer:
Palisades Highlands representative Norman Kulla requested that the commander be more specific about how we could better use these trailers and stated that we would like West LA to have their own trailer. The cost is approximately $15,000. Issues of having our own include where to house it (a city facility is best in order to avoid any liability issues) and how to raise the funds to purchase one. The possibility of having a reserve and/or city volunteers to handle it was discussed. Captain Proctor will report back to Patti Post regarding this issue.

k.Detective Follow up:
Council Member Harry Sondheim wanted to know about detective follow up. The commander stated that because of budget issues detective follow up is prioritized and there is also an issue with personnel turnover. New Detectives are rotated to give them more experience. It is the senior lead officers in the community that create the stability that promotes the follow up.

l. Council Member Kurt Toppel wanted to know if, when calling the 3-1-1 number, callers would be given a referral for an emergency number if necessary. Monique Ford will follow up.

Questions read by Robert Baker for Larry Jacobs:
1. What response time can be expected by the police in the event of an emergency? The commander stated that it was 10 minutes. He cited the deployment formula and said that there are 244 sworn officers in his area, not all on duty at the same time.

2. Will a person calling for help be advised of an estimated time of arrival? Generally not. He encouraged us as a board to take a tour of the dispatch center and listen to some of the calls that are taken. You can go to www.LAPDonline.org/communications/911 also and listen to calls.

3. What should a person do in the event that the police do not respond in a timely manner? The commander stated that every situation is different. Officer Ragsdale said it is better to call the general police department dispatch number 877-275-5273 or the local station at 310-575-8401 first to let them know you have an emergency and not to call 911 from a cell phone as it goes to a central CHP number. Then call his cell phone, 310-622-3980.

There was discussion about solicitors in the area and noted that it was not illegal for them to be in our area soliciting even though they may be actually looking for criminal opportunities. Officer Ragsdale said the best option is community awareness. Officer Ragsdale urged residents to remove the possibility for opportunistic crime by keeping cars locked and valuables out of sight.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Greetings from the Palisades Postmaster, Joe Harris:
Mail Theft: The postmaster suggested that the best way to deal with mail theft is Neighborhood Watch. He said that if there is a problem it is best to contact LAPD instead of the post office because they have a much faster response time. The closest postal police force is in Marina del Rey.

There was a general discussion on mail delivery in the Palisades. It seemed the biggest problem is the lack of consistency of mail carriers. The postmaster stated that they carry a lot of weight and this promotes injury. There are many auxiliary routes (not a full route) and these are handed off to different carriers depending on who is out with an injury. Mr. Harris stated that since he has been the postmaster it has been his goal to establish earlier delivery and reduce the wait times in the store. He stated that he has been successful in those areas. The delivery time to the PO Boxes has been inconsistent because the regular box handler has retired. The postmaster stated that they will never get the delivery to PO boxes by 8:30 AM because mail is delivered to the station later than previously was the case, but 10:00 AM is a possibility.

You can call the postmaster at 310-454-9904. Do not call the 800 number. The delivery supervisor is Rory Ramos.

5.2 New West Charter Middle School:
Representatives from New West Charter Middle School currently located at 11625 W. Pico Blvd. in West LA, attended the meeting to present their plans to open an expansion location for their school at the old Santa Ynez Inn on Sunset, an approximate 1.5 acre site. The representatives were David Eagle, Chairman of the Board, Jennifer Wen, AIA Architect, Dr. Donald Gill, Principal and Executive Director and Patrick Ramsey, Real Estate Attorney. Jennifer Wen gave a brief overview of their plans for the remodel of the existing building on the site showing plans.

There was discussion about traffic and the impact on the community. There was discussion of the possible installation of a stoplight at Las Liones and Sunset. Monique Ford the representative from Council Woman Cindy Miscikowskis office stated that the Councilwoman is very much in support of the schools proposed new site but is equally concerned about the impact of additional traffic. The school representatives stated that there is currently a traffic study being conducted and that the schools mandatory carpooling (no less than two kids from different families in each car) and bussing from their current location will all but completely mitigate any additional traffic issues. The community is invited to a Q&A at Morts at 7 pm on April 22 and to visit the site on Saturday April 24 from 2:00 to 4:00 pm.

Meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.

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Minutes of Board May 13, 2004

Members in Attendance:

George Wolfberg, Margaret Goff, Christine Deeter, Arthur Mortell, Larry Jacobs, Gilbert Dembo, Patti Post, Stuart Muller, Mark Kremer, Christina Porter, Jean Gold Friedman, James Watt McCormick, Norma Spak, Steve Boyers, Louis Cozolino, Norman Kulla, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Michael Kane, Kurt Toppel, Mary Cole, Stephi Magur

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. Treasurer Patti Post read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of April 8, 2004 were approved as corrected.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported there are $6,162 in the checking account and $4,289 in the savings account.

3.2 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office:
Monique Ford reported the following:

a. Dave Gadelia will replace Cheryl Gray as director of the Palisades Recreation Center.
b. The actual paving on Sunset will not take place until May 19, 2004.

Norman Kulla requested that she look into having the stages of repaving and re-striping of Sunset be closer together.

3.4. EIDC:
Larry Jacobs reported that he has received reports from citizens regarding the outrageous behavior of some film crews working in the area, prompting several attempts to contact LA City Councilman Ludlow, chairman of the City Council Committee on filming issues. His attempts included sending a certified letter, which was refused delivery. Larry stated that the full responsibility of the behavior of the film crews lies with the City Council..

3.5. Temescal Canyon & PCH:
Stuart Muller reported that he is attempting to contact a decision maker regarding the addition of another left hand turn lane (onto the southbound side of PCH). He intends to continue to follow up but feels that there will be an issue regarding the allocation of the land between Cal Trans and the County Beaches and Harbors Department..

3.6. Parking Around Marquez Elementary:
Kurt Toppel reported that the Homeowner association surrounding Marquez Charter Elementary has been meeting to discuss the parking overflow of the school. One of those meetings was attended by the City traffic engineer Mo Blorfroshan, Chairman of the Community Council George Wolfberg, and Councilwoman Cindy Miscikowskis Office representative Monique Ford. The school is investigating the possible lease the lot located just west of the school that is owned by the Department of Water and Power, to deal with the overflow..

3.7. Oil Pipelines Underneath Revere Middle School:
Vice Chairman Arthur Mortell reported that there is an oil or gasoline pipeline that runs underneath Revere Middle School and has contacted the Principal of the school and Shell Oil representatives in regard to where it lies and how it is being maintained. He also stated that there is another line running underneath Sullivan Canyon that is owned by Union Oil. Arthur is not sure which pipeline is running oil and which run is running gasoline. Arthur will attempt to contact the responsible City Franchise agency in order to clarify.

3.8. Old Electrical Equipment:
Kurt Toppel reported assorted power outages in our area. In response to Kurts inquiry the DWP said that the existing equipment was not designed to handle the increasing demand for electricity. Chairman Wolfberg received a copy of a letter to Councilwoman Miscikowski from the DWP regarding this matter stating that it is less expensive to replace the equipment than to repair it.

3.9. New Calvary School Representative:
Laura Kahrilas was introduced as the new representative to the PPCC for Calvary Christian School. Christine Deeter announced that there will be a community-wide event this coming Sunday from 4PM to 6PM at their new athletic field.

3.10. Catering Trucks Noise Violations:
Marguerite Perkins-Mautner reported complaints from citizens in her area about the noise violations committed by the food trucks catering to construction workers in the area. It was suggested that the contractors tell their workers not to work with the catering trucks that commit such violations. Stuart Muller will give a phone number to report violations.

3.11. Granny Flats:
Gilbert Dembo stated that there is a bill going through the legislature right now the will enable Granny Flats to by pass the local zoning ordinances. He requested that the issue be added to the next meetings agenda and would like someone from the State to be invited to brief us on the situation..

3.12. Refurbishing of the Beaches:
Chairman Wolfberg reported that refurbishing of our beaches will begin in September. 3.13. Fran Pavley will be at the farmers market on Sunday to meet with constituents.

3.14. Expansion of the Federal Building:
There will be several public meetings regarding the planned expansion of the Federal Building to house the FBI, the first of which is on May 20th in the cafeteria of the building.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Cell Site Committee:
Norman Kulla reported that he has been speaking with an expert on the biological effects of radio frequencies generated by wireless cell sites. Because the regulatory authorities are doing nothing about it there is a proposal to buy equipment that measures the frequencies and be trained on how to use it. The money will need to be raised for this project.

4.2 Nominating Committee:
The nominating committee reported that Norm Kulla has been nominated for Chairman of the Board and Kurt Toppel for Vice Chairman. There is no nomination for Secretary. Pati Post was nominated to be Treasurer. The Chair announced that the nominations will remain open until closed on June 10 when the vote will be taken. The new officers will take office on July 1, 2004.

4.3 Potrero Canyon Development and Improvement:
Status and Future Plans:
Kevin Regan from the Recreation and Parks Department along with Kathleen Chan and Jane Adrian from the department gave the PPCC an overview of the project with a Power Point presentation. The many facets of the project were discussed at length. The cost of the project to date has been approximately $30,000,000 and it is estimated that it will cost another $13M to complete. The initial dollars were spent on the sub-drain system; design, cost of real estate and change orders prompted by different parts of the approval process as well as the filling of the canyon.

Landscaping: The original landscaping budget (1991) was $15 million. It was to include a Riparian habitat using a recirculating stream that would require a pump. It was reported that the city would not be able to afford to maintain the pump and that there is now discussion on the possibility of using seasonal water and irrigation to create the required (by the Coastal Commission) Riparian habitat. Another mandate by the Coastal Commission is that canyon portion of the facility be passive.
One audience member pointed out that the existing sub drains are not properly capped creating a danger to children and that there are tumbleweeds collecting in the area creating a potential fire hazard. There will be community meetings to allow for input from the community regarding the design of the park. The preliminary design is in place. It includes the landscaping, route of the road, hiking trails (separate from the road). There will be access to the canyon from the bluffs through easements on lots that eventually will be sold.

Lot Sales: It was reported that the funding to complete the second phase of the project is dependant upon the sale of some residential lots owned by the City. However; there is still work to be done before the lots can be sold including how they will be sold, and specific deed restrictions that will apply. There is a planning committee in place to focus on what the deed restrictions will be. It was also reported that Building and Safety requires that the lots be certified for stability. That certification requires that they be compacted. It was reported that that all of the existing lots are well over 90% compacted. The standard size of the lots is 50x100 feet. Debbie Dyner will put a general call in the Palisadian Post prior to July. The lots will be sold by auction and are expected to bring fair market value.

Proposition K Funds: There was extensive discussion on the use of Proposition K funds that were earmarked for Potrero Canyon. It was reported by the City representatives that it was all used for this project.

A Walk Bridge: It was reported that a walk bridge over PCH has been proposed. The cost was estimated at $1.9 million 13 years ago.

Norman Kulla moved, that prior to their submission to the Coastal Commission, the PPCC Board urges Recreation & Parks to share with the PPCC any amendments proposed regarding Potrero Canyon project and seek the community's input. Any such amendments should be delivered to the Chair of PPCC. The presentation by Rec & Parks at the May 13, 2004 meeting, does not constitute compliance with this request. The motion was seconded and approved..

4.4.Overnight Parking on Temescal Canyon:
Mr. Demerel of the Aldersgate Retreat passed a petition to allow overnight parking on Temescal Canyon. Stuart Muller presented that it encourages larges trucks to park there overnight. Mr. Demerel stated that there have been no violations in the past 6 weeks and that he puts notes on cars and trucks when they park there illegally. A motion was made to write a letter to MO to restore the 3-hour parking rule on the Palisades High property between Bowdoin and the Womans club parking.

4.5.Proposed Summer Concert Series at the Palisades Recreation Center:
A resident who lives next to the Recreation Center, Rob Weber reported that the Palisades Junior Womens Club gave a grant the Recreation and Parks Department to plan a summer concert series in the park. The series will include outdoor amplified music to include, Salsa, Jazz, etc. on a few Saturdays and Sundays during the summer. Mr. Weber reported that he spoke with Debby Rowland in Kevin Regans (Recreation and Parks Dept) office regarding this matter. Kevin Regan stated that Debbie Rowland would instruct Cheryl Gray not to continue with the concert series without community input. Additionally he encouraged us to work with the new senior Rec and Parks Director for the Palisades, David Gadelia. Kevin Regan assured the council that he would not permit amplified music if the community does not want it but requested that we work with the park advisory board. The park advisory board will meet next Tuesday at 7:30 PM. Stuart Muller requested that the Community be part of the hiring process for the Park directors. Kevin Regan let him know that that is not City policy.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 PM.

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Minutes of Board Meeting May 27, 2004

Members in Attendance [including alternates]:

George Wolfberg, Margaret Goff, Kurt Toppel, Ted Mackie, Larry Jacobs, Norman Kulla, Norma Spak, Stuart Muller, Mark Kremer, Laurie Frost, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Michael Kane

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. Ted Mackie read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of May 13th were approved as submitted.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurers Report:
In the absence of the Treasurer, the Chair reported that the checking account balance is $10,192 and the savings account balance is $4,289.

3.2 Announcements From Councilwoman Miscikowskis Office:
Monique Ford -
Asked for community input regarding location of bike racks [contact Laurie Frost our Board liaison].
Stated that De Pauw St. from Swarthmore to Earlham meets criteria for one-side-only parking.
That a request for one-side-only parking on Ravoli Dr. had been withdrawn, but would be considered if so requested by the Fire Department.
That repair of the cement stairway and the wood stairway from Adelaide to Entrada has been approved and work should begin shortly.
Reported that the City would reduce the number of bus benches, which have proliferated along PCH.

3.3 Other Announcements:

S. Muller reported on the 6/18/04 meeting of the Palisades Rec. Center Park Advisory Board, when the concert issue was to be discussed. Only one PAB board member, Chairperson Stacey Feldman, and Park Director Cheryl Grey were present. In response to the question "Did the PAB vote to approve the Concert Series Chairperson Feldman stated that the PAB doesnt vote to support anything. It exists to serve the Park Director and to provide advice that will help the Director achieve the goals she sets. Muller pointed out that the Director controls the agenda, and that the Board is chosen by, and serves at the discretion of, the Director. Director Grey stated that she felt that she had no need, and was not required by the Brown Act, to publicize the PAB agenda, other than to post a copy of it at the front entrance to the park office, in spite of The Palisadian-Posts repeated requests over the years that copies of the agenda be regularly mailed to them for publication. Muller opined that the Rec. Center Director and the PAB are not functioning to protect the communitys interests, and that Park Directors do not really want public input in the decision making process, but rather want to operate with bureaucratic autonomy. Muller stated that L.A. Rec. and Parks and the local park have for years exhibited, a pattern of self-serving resistance to community input and involvement in the park management decision-making process that effects us all. Muller also pointed out that the main entrance to the Recreation Center is currently at times being restricted to one lane, creating a traffic and safety hazard. M. Ford will investigate.

S. Muller discussed efforts to include an additional left turn lane going southbound on the PCH from Temescal Canyon Road during the redesign of the Will Rogers State Beach parking lot. County Beaches and Harbors, and L. A. DOT support the project. Caltrans is yet to be heard from. Laurie Newman, Senior deputy to Sen. Sheila Kuehl offered to assist in this effort and will contact appropriate city, county and state officials.

3.4 The Chair Reported:

That the nominating committee had made its report per the bylaws on May 6th, and that additional nominations may be made until the election of Council officers on June 10th.
There will be a Coastal Commission hearing on the Bel Air Bay Clubs expansion plans on June 10th. Kurt Toppel will attend and represent the PPCC.
DWP is seeking a community representative to facilitate communication with the Department.
After a complaint re vehicles parking on the island in the Library Parking Lot creating a dangerous situation for legally parked vehicles attempting to exit marked spaces, the Library will have the curb painted red.
The City will conduct a training class on the Navigate LA geographic database program if there is sufficient interest.
The DOT/watch the road program will be set for a future agenda.

3.5 Filming Issues:

Larry Jacobs reported that since the City Attorney's office has recently held that film production companies cannot be compelled to work through the EIDC, some productions may now be getting permits directly from the City. The EIDC now seems to be confused as to what its authority is [as well it should be]. This may now present us with the opportunity to seek redress through Cindy Miscikowski's office.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Potrero Canyon Development:

Stuart Muller distributed and discussed a map showing the boundaries of three adjacent open spaces in Area 6: Temescal Canyon Park, Potrero Canyon Park and the coastal area between them, from Via de Las Olas to the PCH. Muller urged the creation of the Palisades Bluffs Preserve in this last area, to protect it and maintain it in safe condition, and to create a place where people and nature can gently interact. Muller referred to the entire area as the Pacific Palisades Coastal Parks.

Los Angeles City Recreation and Parks representative Jane Adrian began by announcing that her branch of the Department of Recreation and Parks was being transferred to the Bureau of Engineering and that she may no longer be in charge of the Potrero Canyon project. Ms. Adrian went on to explain that Phase II, filling the canyon is complete except for the repair of two landslides, which will require about $1.2 million. The City, lacking funds, would like to sell the 33 properties it owns on the canyon rim, but is prohibited by the Coastal Commission from selling any of these properties until restoration of the canyon is complete. The City plans to ask the Commission to lift this requirement on the condition that the City agrees to place the proceeds from property sales in a designated account. Ms. Adrian distributed the draft of a motion proposed to be made to the City Council by Cindy Miscikowski to create this separate account.

Board members and the audience pointed out that the draft (a) did not specifically state that the sales proceeds are to be spent in Potrero Canyon, (b) that placing all 33 properties on the market at once would disrupt neighborhoods with dozens of near simultaneous construction projects, (c) that to date the City does not have a plan for the canyon, (d) in the absence of a plan there is a risk that the sales proceeds will vanish leaving the project incomplete.
The following motion of Norman Kulla, seconded by Ted Mackie passed unanimously:
The Pacific Palisades Community Council

1. Opposes the sale of 33 residential lots as presented in the draft motion received by the Board on May 27, 2004, under signature of Councilperson Miscikowski;
2. Supports the sale of a sufficient number, but no more, of the City owned developed (improved) lots in Potrero Canyon to fund the completion of Phase II, but not Phase III;
3. Supports the sale of such additional City owned lots in Potrero Canyon, incrementally and sequentially taking into account the environmental impact upon the surrounding neighborhood, as is necessary to fund Phase III only after further input from the community is sought by the City regarding the design and plan of Phase III, the PPCC Board approves such design and plan, and such design and plan includes, but is not limited to, the following particulars:
a) Entrance to the park
b) Permanent funding for park maintenance
c) Restoration of riparian habitat
d) Parking
e) Bathrooms
f) Recreational pads
g) Construction of a walk bridge from the mouth of Potrero Canyon over PCH to beach parking
h) EIR of project upon abutting neighborhoods
I) Landscaping
j) Permissible uses

4. All funds raised by such lots sales shall be deposited into the proposed escrow account and all such deposits shall be used exclusively for the Potrero Canyon Project until completion of all phases.

4.2 Consideration of Summer Concerts at Pacific Palisades Rec. Center:

A proposal to hold outdoor concerts at the Recreation Center for four hours on four Sunday afternoons is opposed by neighboring residents and the residents on Hampton Place are threatening legal action. A separate proposal has been made by the Chamber of Commerce to show films on eight Saturday nights on the Field of Dreams. The Palisades Rec. Center Director was not in attendance, for the second consecutive council meeting. S. Muller reported on the 6/18/04 meeting of the Palisades Rec. Center Park Advisory Board, as detailed under 3.3 above.
A motion by Marguerite Perkins Mautner to oppose both proposals was tabled with her agreement pending receipt of more details of the proposals.

5.0 New Business:

5.1 Assembly Bill 2702 - Proposed State preemption of local zoning to permit second dwelling units on R1 zoned property:

This proposed legislation is intended to increase the supply of affordable housing by preempting local ordinances that place restrictions on creation of granny flats in areas zoned for single-family residences. Assemblywoman Fran Pavleys representative, Louise Rishoff began the discussion by announcing that although Fran opposes the bill, it has been approved by the Assembly. Laurie Newman, Senator Sheila Kuehls representative, told the Council that Senator Kuehl remains undecided on the issue. The Board and audience expressed concerns about the bills impact on the Palisades, particularly that the bill

-Does not require that the property be owner-occupied thus essentially legalizing duplexes in areas now zoned R1.

-Preempts local regulation of such matters as parking.

-In areas such as the Palisades largely zoned R1, the bill would nearly double the number of allowable housing units further stressing our traffic and infrastructure problems.

-By making no mention of CC&Rs the bill leaves these contracts in legal limbo.

No member of the Board or the audience spoke in favor of the bill.

Ted Mackie moved that the Council oppose AB2702 and that the Council so notify Senator Kuehl, Assemblywoman Pavley, and Governor Schwartzenegger. The motion passed with one abstention [Kremer].

The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.

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Minutes of Board Meeting June 10, 2004

Members and Alternates in Attendance:

George Wolfberg, Stephi Magur, Harry Sondheim, Sam Stigler, Arthur Mortell, Larry Jacobs, Christina Porter, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Barbara Kohn, Norma Spak, Stuart Muller, Norman Kulla, Mary Cole, Ted Mackie, Kurt Toppel, Laurie Frost, Todd Ferrier, Margaret Goff, Gilbert Dembo

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. Stephi Magur read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of May 27, 2004 were approved as corrected.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported there are $10,632 in the checking account and $4,789 in the savings account.

3.2Announcements:
Officer Ragsdale reported the following:

a. Crime Downturn: Crime is down significantly in our area with the exception of some burglaries in the Santa Monica Canyon most of which were auto related, e.g., breaking into a vehicle to steal the cell phone that was left in a visible location.

b. Police Response Time: Police response time has improved significantly to seven minutes. This lower response time was achieved by making every important call a code 3, meaning that it is permitted for the unit responsible for patrolling the area to use their lights and siren to get through traffic. This was implemented by Chief Bratton.

c. Leaf Blower Enforcement: He has met with a group to discuss leaf blower enforcement issues.

d.Palisades High Graduation: The Police Department will be working with the Palisades High School Police at the graduation ceremonies.

e. Volunteer Surveillance Team: There has been a good turnout of volunteers for the new volunteer surveillance team being formed.

f. Fire on Via de la Paz: There was a fire apparently started by juveniles behind the Letter Shop on Via de la Paz. It was never reported by the fire department to the police department as arson. According to Officer Ragsdale the Fire department has its own centralized arson investigators and does not contact the Police. There is no system in place for this type of communication between the two departments.
A motion was passed unanimously to contact Cindy Miscikowski to make her aware of this lack of information sharing and to request she follow up to make a change in policy so Senior Lead Officers, at a minimum, are routinely notified of all arson investigations in their assigned area. The chairman will send a letter.

g. Vandalism by Local Kids: Officer Ragsdale reported that most of the malicious vandalism in town is done by local kids. The meeting place for these kids to hang out or the hub is behind Baskin Robbins in the parking area. Officer Ragsdale is looking into taking parents of the local youth on ride alongs. Arthur Mortell and a member of the audience reported drag racing and the use of bottle rockets late at night, specifically in the alphabet streets. Officer Ragsdale suggested that if this is being done after curfew to call 877- 275-5273.

h. Second Patrol Car: The second patrol car is only part time now. It is active in the Palisades 3 to 4 days a week from 2:00 PM to 2:00 AM, with exact schedule dictated by anticipated workload.

i. Trash Can Fires: Advisor Sam Stigler, reported that there has been a rash of trash can fires at Pali High. Officer Ragsdale has been aware of these and speculated that it was not related to the Via de la Paz fire.

j. Bank Robbery: There was a bank robbery at First Federal Bank on the corner on Castellammare and Sunset about three weeks ago. The Robbery was committed by a very organized group/gang that targets our region. The FBI bank robbery division is investigating the crime.

k. Traffic Trailers: There has been no progress made on getting a speed trailer. Norm Kulla made a motion to send a letter to Cindy Miscikowskis office (he will write it). It was seconded and unanimously approved.

3.3 Area Representative Candidates:
The Chair announced that the following Area Representatives have indicated that they are candidates to succeed themselves, as color-coded in yellow highlighting on the board sign in sheet: Barbara Kohn, Todd Ferrier, Stuart Muller, Jean Gold Friedman, and Marguerite Perkins Mautner.

3.4 Operation of the new Skate Park:
Harry Sondheim asked if there have been any problems resulting from the opening of the skate park and Officer Ragsdale responded that there were none.

3.5 Bel Air Bay Club Improvement Project:
Kurt Toppel attended todays hearing of the Coastal Commission regarding the Bel Air Bay Club improvement project. The alignment of the intersection on PCH between the upper and lower Bel Air Bay Club locations is included in the approval. The issue of right of way for the bike path in front of the lower club was discussed (it has not been funded yet). The Club is providing right of way to restore the highway shoulder at the east end of the property lost many years ago after a landslide. This eventually will enhance safety of cyclists and pedestrians who now must traverse in the traffic lane.

3.6 Shrubs on Sunset:
Marguerite Perkins Mautner reported that there are overgrown shrubs in the walkway along Sunset from Allenford to Capri, Amalfi to Brooktree in addition to the Ocean Avenue extension. It was suggested that it be brought to Cindy Misckowskis attention. The Chair will contact Bureau of Street Services to investigate.

3.7 Movies in the Park:
There will be a meeting with Arnie Wishnick and David Williams, the president of the Chamber of Commerce who is a proponent of a Movies under the Stars program. Palisades Patrol will provide security for the event(s). Clean up will be done by Chrysalis Streetworks and the American Legion will provide the food. It is planned for 6 consecutive Saturdays in the summer beginning in the middle of July. Screening will begin at dusk and admission will be free. There was a sound check done and some park neighbors are concerned and objected to the sound level. It was suggested that the movies be held in a different venue in the Palisades each week to take the burden off of the homeowners surrounding the Park. Gilbert Dembo suggested that the movies be played inside the Gym. Stuart Muller made a motion to send a letter to Kevin Regan at the Recreation and Parks department, with copies to the Chamber of Commerce and Cindy Miscikowskis office stating that the PPCC would like a presentation before the commencement of the program. The motion passed by a vote of 11 in favor 1 opposed and 1 abstained.

3.8 Election of Board Members:
Stephi Maghur and Todd Ferrier were appointed to count the votes. Norman Kulla was elected Chairman; Kurt Toppel was elected Vice Chairman and Patti Post Treasurer. There were no nominations for secretary.

3.9 Library Beautification Award:
The Library is getting a beautification award at the Chamber of Commerce awards dinner however it was pointed out that the Library exterior has not been maintained very well. The Library Association has hired Chrysalis to maintain the Library Exterior.

4.0 New Business

4.1 Five Most Important City Issues:

The City Controllers Neighborhood Council liaison group has requested the PPCC make a determination of the five most important City issues. The five issues chosen were:

The Cost of Housing
Transportation
Provide and maintain more playfields for children and youth
Filming and the EIDC
Dealing with Homelessness

Mark Kremer and Harry Sondheim have agreed to attend the Controllers meeting on June 23, 2004. The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 PM.

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Minutes of Board Meeting July 22, 2004

Members in Attendance:

Norman Kulla, Steve Lantz, Stuart Muller, Kurt Toppel, Mary Cole, Laurie Frost, Patti Post, Sam Stigler, Michael Kane, Karyn Weber, Barbara Kohn, Stephi Magur, George Wolfberg, Norma Spak, Steve Boyers, Jack Allen, Larry Jacobs, Barbara Richman, Richard Blumenberg, Carl Mellinger, Gilbert Dembo, Ted Mackie, Margaret Goff, Louis Cozolino, Paul Glasgall, Todd Ferrier

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. at the Library Community Room. The Chair read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council (the "PPCC"). Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of June 24, 2004 were approved as submitted.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns

3.1 Consideration of the Agenda:
The Chair reviewed the Agenda.

3.2 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported there are $11,795.57 in the checking account and $4,789.78 in the savings account.

3.3 Announcements From the Chair included:
a. Announcements from the Chair:
Debbie Dyner of Councilwoman Miscikowski's office had a baby boy.
There will be pro and con presentations regarding the LAX Master Plan at the September 9, 2004 PPCC meeting.
The Ad Hoc Santa Ynez Reservoir Committee will be meeting again on August 5 with representatives from DWP
The California Coastal Clean-Up Day will take place on September 18th, 9a.m. to Noon (register online at (cleanup@healthebay.org or call 1-800-HEAL BAY, ext 221)
The Mayor's Budget Day for neighborhood councils will take place on July 31st from 8:30 a.m. to Noon, City Hall - 200 n. Main St., Los Angeles, 99912
The West L.A. Police Department will celebrate National Night Out with a BBQ on August 3rd at Stoner Park
Former Chair Shirley Haggstrom notified the Chair there has been vandalism/graffiti at Los Liones Park; Rec & Parks has informed the community that repairs of the gym floor at the Palisades Recreation Center will be completed by mid-October or at the latest, November 1. A citizen request for a bus bench at Sunset and Baylor has been referred to PRIDE; PRIDE informed the Chair they are addressing a maintenance problem with newly landscaped median; The CityWide Issues Group has announced a list of issues considered important by neighborhood councils for further evaluation. See www.LANCissues.org for further information.

The Vice Chair announced that faulty equipment was discovered in the Santa Monica Mountains and will be repaired by the DWP as soon as possible. The Chair thanked the Vice Chair for his initiative to head-off a potential fire danger to the community.

b. Letters were received by the PPCC regarding opposition by Edward and Gisela Moriarty to AB 2702, the "Granny Flats" proposed legislation and concern from "anonymous" for homeless encampments below Via De Los Olas; The Department of Interior plans for fire management of Santa Monica Mountains are the subject of a National Park Service draft environmental impact study. The Chair announced that he had referred the letter to Bob Cavage for review and input. Bob has provided invaluable contributions to fire protection in the past.
Zoning Matters: Arthur Mortell announced that the Coastal Commission Meeting decided that substantial issues exist regarding the YMCA land on Sunset in Temescal Gateway Park and a de novo hearing will be held at a future date. This issue is not on the Coastal Commission's agenda for August and will most likely be discussed in October.
The PPCC is on record as opposing the development at 425 Mt. Holoyoke and we received a package with information regarding such development. The Chair announced that zoning variance applications had been requested for 17719 W. Castellammare Drive, Case No. ZA-2004-3632-CDP-ZAD and 545 N. Marquette, Case No. ZA-2004-3660-ZAA.

d. Announcement of Candidates for Position of Area Representatives:

a. Area 1: Barbara Kohn (incumbent) - unopposed
b. Area 2: Paul Glasgall, Ron Silverton
c. Area 3: William Niemann, Richard G. Cohen
d. Area 4: Harry Sondheim - unopposed
e. Area 5: Todd Ferrier (incumbent) - unopposed
f. Area 6: Stuart Muller (incumbent) - unopposed
g. Area 7: Jean Gold Friedman (incumbent) and Nanette Fabray MacDougall
h. Area 8: Marguerite Perkins Mautner (incumbent) - unopposed

3.4 Announcements from Councilwoman Miscikowski, Officer Chris Ragsdale and other Governmental Representatives:
a. Report from Councilwoman Miscikowski's Office: The Chair read a report from Monique of Councilwoman Miscikowski's office, who was not in attendance. The report is attached to minutes.

b. Officer Ragsdale: was not in attendance, but Paul Glasgall inquired of the editor of the Palisadian-Post why recent major crimes (home robberies) have not been reported in the Post. The Chair, Chair Emeritus and editor all indicated that they read the Crime Alerts emailed by LAPD. They believed all the recent major crimes had occurred in Brentwood, not the Palisades. Mr. Glasgall urged further inquiry.

3.5 Report of Committees:
a. Car Wash Noise Committee: Stuart Muller reported that Palisades Gas and Wash Company, which in turn is owned by USA Petroleum, own the car wash. A pro bono audio expert measured the decibels emitted by the car wash from across the street and it is out of compliance with city noise ordinance. The car wash was cited by Building and Safety in January 2004 and the owners told Stuart that they have tried to deal with the noise. Stuart has given them suggestions regarding planting, etc. to update their noise control. Stuart agreed to continue to monitor and report back to the Board.

b.Cellular Site Committee:
The Chair reported that the Committee will have an expert measure RF radiation that emits from the Sprint site near 16820 Sunset at the July 28th cell site committee meeting. Sprint has volunteered to pay for this. For the future, the Committee may purchase equipment to do the measuring or require cellular companies to undertake measurements. In addition, recommended administrative practice and legislative changes will be forthcoming intended to protect the public health and aesthetics as well as promote better cell service in the Palisades-Brentwood area.

c. Other:
The Chair will be forming a By-laws Review Committee; anyone interested in participating should notify the Chair. The Cultural Ethics Board seat is currently vacant. The next organization in rotation for this seat is PRIDE. The Chair has requested Naidu Permaul, PRIDE President, to designate a representative and alternate at PRIDE's earliest convenience.

4.0 Old Business

Whereas the Council requested on October 3, 2003 that representatives of City Councilwoman Miscikowski and LADOT meet and consult with the Task Force to discuss their concerns and ideas prior to any public hearing to propose cancellation of Line 430;

Whereas the LADOT did not meet or consult with the Pacific Palisades Community Council's ("Council") Transportation Task Force created by the Council in October of 2003 (the "Task Force"):

Whereas DOT has set a public hearing for August 11, 2004 proposing cancellation of Line 430;

Whereas DOT has not provided the Task Force or the Council with any substantive information in support of the cancellation nor DOT's report to be discussed at the public hearing, notwithstanding the Task Force and Council's request for same;

Whereas the riders of Line 430 have suffered from unreliable service since October of 2003 to date;

Whereas suggestions have been made and ignored to increase ridership, including marketing and service changes;

Whereas, one highly regarded local citizen wrote a letter LADOT offering to liaison with parents of the Palisades to facilitate a minor service change to service Loyola High School, which letter did not receive a reply;

Now, therefore the Council requests that such public hearing be delayed until the aforementioned issues can be addressed by LADOT with the Task Force and the Council:

Further, in the event of a public hearing Patti Post is authorized to represent the Council at such hearing."

In addition, the Chair will send the motion to Councilwoman Miscikowski and ask her to delay the hearing. Motion passed unanimously, no abstentions.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Ratification of Bill Nieman as Area 3 Representative:
A Motion to ratify Bill Nieman as Alternate (and serving as Representative as Kurt Toppel was elected Vice Chairman) for Area 3 until election (i.e., for August and September meetings). Motion passed 14 to 0 with Patti Post abstaining.

5.2 Advice and Consent of Ron Dean as Legal Counsel:
A Motion to Consent was proposed by the Chair and seconded by Lou Cozolino. The motion passed unanimously.

5.3 Park Lighting response to request for input from Bureau of Street Lighting:
The Chair reported that he had asked Stuart Muller to discuss this with the Palisades Recreation Center Park Director. Any discussion deferred until next meeting.

5.4 Consideration of Tree Ordinance proposal:
Mitchell Lachman asked the PPCC to consider a tree ordinance to save trees from being torn down. Carl Mellinger thanked Mr. Lachman for bringing up an interesting subject but told him that we need more information. Mr. Lachman has been given the opportunity to return with a more formulated idea.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:25 PM.

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Minutes of Board Meeting August 26, 2004

In Attendance:

Norman Kulla, William Niemann, Stuart Muller, Kurt Toppel, Mary Cole, Laurie Frost, Patti Post, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Walk McCall, Karyn Weber, Barbara Kohn, Paul Glasgall, George Wolfberg, Larry Jacobs, Carl Mellinger, Todd Ferrier, Ted Mackie, Norma Spak

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. at the Library Community Room. The Chair read the Purpose of the Pacific Palisades Community Council (the "PPCC"). Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The minutes of July 22, 2004 were approved as circulated with minor spelling corrections.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Consideration of the Agenda:
The Chair reviewed the Agenda.

3.2 Treasurers Report:
The Treasurer reported there are $13,098.40 in the checking account and $4,790.21 in the savings account.

3.3 Announcements From the Chair included:

a. Announcements from the Chair: New PPCC Members Walt McCall (for PRIDE as Cultural, Ethics and Aesthetics Organization Representative) and William Niemann (Area 3) were introduced. McCall is taking his seat early due to the absence of representation for this seat this year and last. The final ballot for area representatives was announced as follows:

Area 1: Barbara Kohn
Area 2: Paul Glasgall, Ron Silverton
Area 3: William Niemann, Rich