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Council Meister George Wolfberg July 4, 2003

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Minutes for January 9, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors):

George Wolfberg, Harry Sondheim, Jack Allen, Paul Glasgall, Ronald R. Silverton, Norma Spak, Norman Kulla, Barry Kurtz, Kurt Toppel, Larry Jacobs, Stuart Muller, Gilbert Dembo, Jean Gold Friedman, Carl Mellinger, Ted Mackie, Lorraine Oshins, Daniel Slate, Byron Brooks, Sam Stigler, Richard Bletcher

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M. with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The Minutes of the December 12, 2002 meeting were approved as submitted. The minutes for the meeting of November 14, 2002 had been distributed by email earlier in the day and consideration was deferred until the Board had the opportunity to review them.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurer?s Report

The Treasurer was absent but advised through the Chair that there was no significant change since the last report.

3.2 Selection of Area Representative Alternates

The Chair announced that alternate vacancies remain for Areas 6 & 7.

3.3 Status of Organizational Representative designations

Daniel Slate was welcomed representing the YMCA. Ron Silverton was welcomed as an Advisor who shall serve in such capacity until he shall serve as organizational representative for American Legion Post 283 commencing October 2003.

3.4 Entertainment Industry Development Corporation (EIDC) update

Larry Jacobs reported that he had circulated an email to approximately 140 parties involved in 90 community organizations inquiring of their interest in drafting a letter to the City Council regarding the EIDC. He had received responses from 20 groups indicating interest in addressing the current film permit process. Larry will draft and circulate a letter to these interested groups that will reflect his previously expressed concerns of the role our elected representatives have played in allowing the EIDC to get out of hand. Larry will keep us informed as progress occurs.

3.5 Letter received from Chief Zoning Administrator re 1250 N. Capri Dr

This matter concerns the proposed installation of a cell phone antenna by AT&T in the form of a monopalm adjacent to trees in a parking lot of Riviera Country Club. Representatives of AT&T and concerned residents made presentations to the Board at our prior meeting. The Board had requested that the Zoning Administrator continue the hearing to allow residents the opportunity to obtain and present further information.

The Chair stated that the written response of the Zoning Administrator explained that the hearing could only be continued upon the request of the applicant under current practices. This was in part due to managing a busy calendar and in part due to avoid the appearance of manipulation in favor of one side or the other. The Chair announced that Councilwoman Miscikowski had met with concerned residents today and agreed to write a letter requesting additional technical information from AT&T. There was discussion that the residents objected on health concerns, namely that radio-waves from antenna were potentially carcinogenic, but that health concerns was not considered by hearing due to federal pre-exemption by FCC of health effects from radio-waves. Nonetheless, the several members of community expressed viewpoint that despite federal pre-exemption, if health concerns were substantive, the PPCC should continue to take appropriate action nonetheless.

Bill Bruns then raised the question of whether or not the Board was not going to oppose the antenna based upon the precedent of not granting exceptions to height limitations. The antenna will be over sixty feet high while the height limitation is thirty-two feet. A discussion ensued.

Carl Mellinger, an arborist, stated that he's familiar with these monopalms and "they fool me quite regularly." He pointed out that times change, people rely on cell phones extensively today and we need to consider all the facts. Jack Allen stated the Board considers the issue on a case-by-case basis.

Kurt Toppel moved, and Lorraine Oshins seconded, that the Board expresses its opposition in principle to any variation to the existing height limitations for structures. The motion passed with 9 in favor, 2 opposed, 2 abstentions. The Chair will send a letter to the ZA and the Council office expressing the Board?s view.

3.6 Beach bike path improvement - Fiji Way

The beach bike path is nineteen miles and runs from Will Rogers to Torrance. Barry Kurtz is working on a project (sponsored by the County of Los Angeles, Department of Public Works) to close.27 mile gap where the bike path travels on Fiji Way in Marina del Way. If funded and constructed, the entire19 mile path will be a "class one" bikeway. The bike path subject to the project is a lower rated "class three" bikeway. The PPCC is already on record as supporting a project to extend the path through the Bel Air Club parking lot to the City limit at Coastline Drive. The Chair asked whether this project would compete for the same funds as the extension project. Barry Kurtz noted that the Fiji Way project would be a lower priority project and should receive funding in a different cycle from the extension project. On motion of Norman Kulla, seconded by Gilbert Dembo, the Board unanimously approved the bike project. The Chair is to write a letter to the appropriate party indicating our support.

3.7 Revisiting the Neighborhood Council certification issue

Norman Kulla recommended the Chair appoint a committee to reconsider certification as L.A. City Neighborhood Council. Kulla stated that Viet Tran of Mayor Hahn's office had recently suggested in a speech to the Palisades Optimist Club that it would be possible to do so and reserve the PPCC's right to challenge city action. Kulla stated that he understood each certified Neighborhood Council would be receiving something like $50,000 to $70,000 per year, which could be used to benefit the local community. Kulla had asked Tran to investigate and report back to him if there were any restrictions on the use of these funds, and if so, to describe them.

A discussion ensued where strong objection was raised to reconsideration. Arthur Mortell stated it was immoral for the City in this budget crisis to allocate any funds to neighborhood councils, and we shouldn't accept such funds in any event. Several Board members stated the PPCC had the ability to raise funds from the local community as needed and agreed that we should not pursue funding from the city. Additional objections involved changing the process as well as legal form of the PPCC to comply with certification guidelines. The viewpoint was also expressed that not being certified gave the PPCC greater influence due to its independence and history of open dialogue with our elected public representatives. Also, the Chair has been invited to participate and observe events held by the City for certified community councils. The discussion concluded by several Board members encouraging Kulla to monitor the situation and report back if circumstances warrant further discussion.

3.8 Errors and Omissions Insurance Policy renewal

This matter was deferred. Chair Emeritus Harry Sondheim encouraged the Chair to review last year's materials, which he believed he had delivered to the Chair. He asked the Chair to contact him if he could not locate the materials.

3.9 New VNOC - Rustic Canyon Park

The Chair announced that Councilwoman Miscikowski and the Department of Recreation & Parks invited all interested persons to a community meeting to consider future improvements at Rustic Canyon Park at 7:30 P.M. on January 13, 2003 at the Park. This meeting will focus on the new Proposition K funding and establish the new VNOC [community oversight committee].

3.10 3-1-1 nonemergency phone number

The Chair inquired if members of the Board or community had tried to use the new 311 non-emergency city phone number. Several persons indicated they had successfully done so. The Chair indicated that 311 is not working for some 454 prefixes. The Chair is following up with the City..

3.11 Sunset to Via left turn signal

At Jack Allen?s request the Chair will invite a representative from the City Traffic Engineer, preferably "Mo," to attend our next meeting to discuss the proposed Sunset to Via de la Paz left turn signal. Carl Mellinger stated the red curb at the Post Office also should be discussed. Members asked the chair to add other community-related DOT issues to the request.

3.12 Traffic Safety Concern at Self-Realization Center

Paul Glasgall asked that this matter be added to the agenda. Due to the length of the meeting the matter was deferred to next meeting.

4.0 Old Business:

4.1 City of L.A. Street Furniture Project

Cheyenne Pierce, Real Estate Manager, and Maria Landin, Real Estate Coordinator, for Viacom JCDecaux Outdoor Street Furniture made a presentation regarding the City of Los Angeles' Street Furniture Project. Los Angeles has signed a $150 million twenty year agreement with their company to provide local communities in Los Angeles with public amenity kiosks, vending kiosks, automatic public toilets, and transit shelters. This furniture is provided in various designs and colors. Advertising is sold to private industry and displayed on the furniture to fund the project.

Gilbert Dembo, on behalf of Palisades Beautiful, stated they do not want billboards that the community finally succeeded in removing being replaced by street furniture with advertising. His organization is working on a master plan, which will reflect that the proposed street furniture is not compatible with what the Palisades community is trying to accomplish. Dembo stated they had MTA surveys, which reflected low bus ridership but a multitude of bus benches at PCH and intersections at Sunset as well as Temescal.

Ms. Pierce indicated that their program did not represent bus benches. She recommended calling Lance Oishi (213-847-5139) of the Bureau of Street Services to request removal of any objectionable bus benches.

Kurt Toppel, on behalf of PRIDE, stated opposition to advertising on kiosk, benches or other street furniture.

Naidu Permaul, a resident and member of PRIDE, stated that the specific plan provided for no bench signs. He stated that he believed this program represented an erosion of stated standards.

Byron Brooks stated that numerous students at Palisades High School use public transportation to go and return from school. When it rains these students must stand for extended periods of time waiting for a bus. He welcomed the installation of the type of transit shelter provided by the L.A. Street Furniture Program if placed on Sunset near the corner of El Medio where many students catch the bus. He indicated there might be other suitable locations. He stated such transit shelters would be very appealing for students waiting for the bus. Another citizen who resides and works in the Palisades stated she would welcome transit shelters of the kind described. She also indicated that the shelter and lighting these facilities provided would be much appreciated. She stated perhaps this would encourage more Palisadians to use public transportation and reduce pollution/congestion from automobiles.

Ms. Landin pointed out that the public amenity kiosks have no private advertising but the transit shelters do. Chair Emeritus Harry Sondheim inquired what the cost would be to purchase the advertising on a transit shelter and if the community could do so. In this way the community could obtain the shelter's benefit but choose to keep the advertising space blank. Ms. Landin did not know but expressed willingness to investigate and reply. Several Board members stated their support for transit shelters (with advertising, preferably without) where appropriate and suitable to address the shelter and lighting needs of students and residents who depend upon public transportation.

Ms. Landin and Ms. Pierce that each community can do what they want and were not required to participate in the program. However, Councilperson Miscikowski makes this decision. Miscikowski has sent a letter to the Chair indicating she will consult with the PPCC and make her decision based upon the input received.

Gilbert Dembo moved, and Carl Mellinger seconded, a motion to send a letter to Councilperson Miscikowski indicating the PPCC's support of PRIDE in the removal of advertising from all bus benches in the Palisades and to replace them with benches without advertising. The motion passed, twelve in favor, with one abstention.

Gilbert Dembo moved, and Carl Mellinger seconded, a motion that the PPCC not accept any transit shelters, kiosks, or automatic pay toilets offered by the L.A. Street Furniture Program at this time, but will continue to study the matter. The motion failed. Six voted in favor, six opposed.

The Chair appointed Gilbert Dembo, Larry Jacobs, Kurt Toppel, Byron Brooks and Carl Mellinger as a committee to further consider street furniture for the Palisades and recommend back what, if anything further, should be done.

The Chair is to advise Councilwoman Miscikowski of the foregoing.

4.2 Coastal Commission hearing re request from Sea View Restaurants dba Gladstones for retroactive approval for use of public parking lot and viewing deck by private restaurant, and to maintain an arched "Gladstones-4-Fish" monument sign {Application #5-91-141-A4}.

This matter was deferred..

The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 P.M.. The next meeting of the PPCC Board will be held at Mort?s Oak Room on January 23, 2003 at 7:00 P.M.

Minutes taken by Norman Kulla sitting in for the Secretary.

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Minutes for January 23, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

-George Wolfberg, -Arthur Mortell, -Patti Post, -Jack Allen, -Harry Sondheim, -Margaret Goff, -Barry Kurtz, -Alice Karl, -Larry Jacobs, -Stuart Muller, -Marguerite Perkins Mautner, -Jean Gold, Friedman, -Bob Jacobsen, -Ron Silverton, -Ted Mackie, -Lorraine Oshins, -Norman Kulla, -Byron Brooks, -Paul Antieri, -Jennifer Cron, -Peter Partain, -Tony Sain, -Todd Ferrier

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:
The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:
The Minutes of the prior meeting, January 9^th and of a former meeting, November 14^th, were adopted.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurer's Report:
There is $8,306.12 in the PPCC checking account and $4,776.71 in the savings account.

3.2 Selection of Area Representatives, No update

Status of Organizational Representative designation, No update

3.3 Will Rogers State Park Landscape Plan EIR
Mauricio Vecchione is reviewing the documents.

3.4 15601 Sunset Blvd. YMCA Parcel Map Approval (Map LA NO. 7245) & Coastal Dev Permit (CDP 98-004/ZA 98-0229(NC), effective 1/30/03, unless appealed. (YMCA to brief PPCC on Plans at meeting of February 13).

3.5 17331 - 17333 Tramanto Dr. Draft EIR

PPCC has one copy; others are available at Room 763 City Hall, Brentwood Branch and WLA Regional Branch Library. At least one page of Harry Sondheim?s letter regarding the project is missing from the EIR Appendices; deadline for comments: March 3. Chair will send correction to City Planning

3.7 649 N. Resolano

Applicant, Ronald Swepston, is Appealing City's denial of a Coastal Development Permit-Coastal Commission to hear appeal 2/7/03 in San Diego (Permit A-5-PPL-02-282). Harry Sondheim asked the PPCC to re-send a letter to the Coastal Commission asking that they schedule meetings locally for local issues.

3.6 Los Angeles City Council Meeting in CD 11

Gersten Pavilion at Loyola Marymount on February 19^th at 6:00pm.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Coastal Commission hearing re-request from Sea View Restaurants

dba Gladstone's for retroactive approval for use of public parking lot and viewing deck by private restaurant, and to maintain an arched ?Gladstone?s-4-Fish? Monument sign. (Application #5-91-141-A4). Jack Allen reported that Gladstone?s permit expired in June of 2001. Arched sign does not have a permit. Parking costs between beach goers and restaurant patrons varies. Restrooms are not clearly marked that they are open to the public. Commission staff recommends 1) Parking lot monitoring program; 2) that the lot remain open to the public; 3) Removal of arched sign and elimination of ?Gladstones? from the public parking sign. Jack Allen suggested that the Pacific Palisades Community Council support staff recommendations. Arthur Mortell made the motion and Lorraine Oshins seconded: PPCC goes on record supporting Coastal Commission Staff recommendations. Tony Sain made a second motion, also seconded by Lorraine Oshins: ?PPCC recommends that whatever penalties there are be enforced (regarding sign infractions). Both motions were approved by the Board.

Barry Kurtz met with Caltrans & LAPD over the left turn out of Gladstone?s and reported that Caltrans may take out some parking to open visibility. Also looking into a possible left turn at Sunset but this solution raises other potential technical problems.

5.0 New Business

5.1 Department of Transportation briefing (requested)

The West LA Traffic Engineer was invited to discuss traffic safety issues including on Sunset Blvd at various locations including (SRF and Ralphs ?No Left Turn? driveways), the Post Office red curb zone, Via de La Paz and Palisades Drive (see SRF, above); Signal placement and timing at West Channel Rd and at Chautauqua and PCH. Traffic Engineer Mo Blorfroshan delivered the report and responded to questions: Issues: Audience Member suggests a 4 way stop at Drummond and Toyopa. Jack Allen responded toMr. Blorfroshan's report that a traffic study recommends installation of a left turn signal at Via De La Paz and Sunset, but only for the westbound lanes. Jack told Mr. Blorfroshan that the eastbound lanes require a left turn signal and Mr. Blorfroshan agreed. When a large car or truck is in the westbound pocket, the drivers in the eastbound pocket are unable to see oncoming traffic. JackAllen reported that a few years ago, the DOT approved an eastbound left turn signal. Protective-Permissive will not apply here ? this will be a Protective light only. As for SRF, Mr. Blorfroshan will see that a right turn only sign is placed at the bottom of the stop sign. Marquerite Perkins Mautner suggested that plastic markers be placed in the divider to keep people from turning left onto Sunset. Mr. Blorfroshan reported that the issue with the Post Office parking problem is an enforcement issue. There is nothing that can be done structurally. The audience and board did present ideas, several of which create other problems. Suggestions included: permitting parking in a white zone to be painted there; installing a curbside mailbox across the street [apparently already exists], around the corner [also a red zone], or in the alley [there is a curb drop off at the former PO site]; removal of the East bound left turn lane, so the parking can be restored in front of the PO [creates other traffic problems because of the number of persons wishing to make this turn]; changing existing meter parking to only 15 minutes [this already has been done for the nearest meters]; removing parking across the street and moving lanes over [creates other problems including moving the bus zone; installing signs [already marked "tow-away"];. and strict enforcement with publicity. Barry Kurtz suggested painting a chevron pattern along the curb to create a disincentive. Patti suggested placing a dummy patrol car in the vicinity. Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale stated that he would put a call in to Parking Enforcement to request an increase in enforcement and he told us that he issues many tickets here but that people still take the risk.

Mr. Blorfroshan indicated that PCH is under Caltrans jurisdiction. The state will have to deal with at PCH and Chautauqua. To discuss issues regarding this intersection members may call Sameer Haddadeen @ 213-897-9102. Stuart Muller moved that the Board to send a letter to Caltrans regarding a complaint at Chautauqua made by a member of the Audience. Letter will ask Caltrans to evaluate solutions over left turn jam. Seconded and passed.

Arthur Mortell mentioned the problem at the Signal at Castellammare and Sunset where drivers are paying attention to the light at Sunset and running the light at Castellammare and Sunset. Other Board members mentioned the same problem and Mr. Blorfroshan will investigate. The Von?s parking lot was also discussed in reference to the parking lot exit not lining up with the intersection. A problem is created by a city utility that is in the way of a new driveway.

The Board thanked Mr. Blorfroshan for responding so quickly to it request and asked the Chair to send a letter of appreciation to the appropriate City officials.

Meeting adjourned at 8:48pm.

Minutes taken by Vice-Chair Arthur Mortell in the absence of the secretary.

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Minutes of February 13, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

-George Wolfberg, -Arthur Mortell, -Patti Post, -Harry Sondheim, -Margaret Goff,
-Barbara Kohn, -Norma Spak, -Todd Ferrier, -Larry Jacobs, -Stuart Muller,
-Barbara Richman, -Carl Mellinger -Tony Sain, -Ron Silverton, -Ted Mackie,
-Susan Orenstein, -Norman Kulla, -Mark Elswick, -Sam Stigler, -Gilbert Dembo,
-Scott Wagenseller

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:
The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The Minutes of the prior meeting, January 23^rd, were adopted as submitted, with one abstention [Stuart Muller].

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurer's Report
There is $8,746.85 in the PPCC checking account and $4,777.60 in the savings account.

3.2 Selection of Area Representatives - No update

3.3 Status of Organizational Representative designation - No update.

3.4 Emergency Notification System
Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale, LAPD's liaison with the Palisades community, explained LAPD's new community alert system and invited participation. Those in attendance were invited to complete and submit sign-up forms to receive email alerts. Email alerts will be sent to notify Palisades's business people and residents of criminal activity in their neighborhood. The Palisades has been divided into five reporting districts for this purpose. Sign-up forms can be obtained at the Chamber of Commerce (15330 Antioch), the West LA Police Station (1663 Butler Avenue, LA, Ca 90025) or my emailing Officer Ragsdale at 26690@lapd.lacity.org Officer Ragsdale may also be reached at 310-575-8423 or his cell phone, 310-509-7002. To obtain further information on the program on the web go to www.lapdonline.org and click on WLA Pacific Palisades. You may also contact Officer James Merle at (310) 575-8431 or Captain Richard C. Wemmer (310) 575-8400, Commanding Officer of the West Los Angeles Community Police Station, if you have any questions or suggestions.

3.5 Golden Sparkplug Award Nominations
Nominations are due March 14, 2003. Criteria and procedure are available on PPCC's website, www.pp90272.org.

3.6 Getty Construction Notice
The Getty Villa Project will begin construction on February 17, 2003 per a notice received by the PPCC. The notice states "that grading, shoring and mass excavation activities should be complete by early fall 2003 when building construction will get underway. Barring unexpected delays, the overall project should be complete in the late summer of 2005." Complaints about construction activity should be telephoned to (877) 625-4282 which will be staffed by Getty security personnel 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The notice promises response to complaints made during 7:00a.m. --5:00 p.m. within one hour and the next business day by 10:00 a.m. for complaints made in the evening or weekends.

3.7 Calendar give-away
Area 5 representative Todd Ferrier, a publisher, offered free 2003 calendars to anyone present at the PPCC meeting. The calendars came in two formats, desktop and wall, by artist Susan Wallace Barnes. Todd can be reached at 1-800-992-3006 or www.lifeguardpress.com. .

3.8 Los Angeles City Council Meeting in Council District 11
The City Council will meet at Gersten Pavilion at Loyola Marymount on February 19^th at 6:00pm. A City Information Fair will be held from 5:00-6:00 p.m.

3.9 DONE Congress of Neighborhoods to be held 4-5-03 at LA Convention Ctr
The PPCC has been invited to attend DONE's Congress of Neighborhood Councils on Saturday April 4, 2003 at the LA Convention Center. The Chair, Norman Kulla, and Tony Sain will attend. The Chair said five representatives are invited so two more members interested are invited to contact the Chair. Registration is from 9-10 a.m., and the event is from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

3.10 Newsletter status
The Chair announced that printing of the newsletter was completed Friday and should be in the mail Monday or Tuesday. The Chair thanked Stuart Muller, Ted Mackie and Norman Kulla for their assistance.

3.11 Library Opening
The new Pacific Palisades City Library will open on Saturday February 22, 2003. The Riviera Masonic Lodge No. 780 invites the public to the Cornerstone Dedication at 9:30 a.m. and the Board of Library Commissioners invites the public to the Grand Opening Ceremony at 11:00 a.m.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Briefing by YMCA on plans for property at 15601 Sunset Blvd (@Temescal Canyon Road)
Mark Elswick, Palisades-Malibu "Y" Director, stated the plans for the property at 15601 Sunset Blvd are threefold: 1) to fence around the property with a nice looking (not chain link) fence of not less than six feet height for security and safety; 2) continue current property uses, namely pumpkin sale, Christmas tree sale and children's day camp; and 3) no build policy for not less than ten years. The Metropolitan Y will own the property and have ultimate control on use, policy, and practices. The local seventeen-member board will exercise control subject to the downtown Y's superceding authority, which has not been exercised to Mr. Elswick's knowledge. Should the Y want to sell the property the Conservancy have first right of refusal, and if declined, the City of Los Angeles Department of Recreation & Parks has second right of refusal. In ten years the Y will consult with the community and propose a use compatible with then current needs and wants.
It was announced that ten names have appealed the decision to allow splitting of the property from the Conservancy and recording of title in the name of the Metro Y. There was discussion in which several citizens urged the Y to commit to keep the property as open space permanently. Mr. Elswick acknowledged that there had been discussion of constructing a regional aquatic center of between 44,000 and 66,000 square feet on the property. He stated all proposed development project of this nature have been deferred for consideration for at least ten years. There was extended discussion about the community's desire to maintain the property as open space, but no agreements or proposals were identified for further consideration.

Per February 27, 2003 approval of minutes, the following supplemental information submitted by Stuart Muller was made part of the minutes:
"Re: YMCA Parceling Off Parkland
1. The Fence. This is the first I've heard of a fence, and I've been following this since 1993. Fencing in part of our last open space is unacceptable. The cyclone fence that you have seen in the last few years is a temporary one that used to be removed after each Christmas tree and pumpkin sale. Now it's been left up all year. Nobody approved that.
2. The Building/Development. Why do we need to have the threat of a yet to be defined building hanging over our communal head for the next decade. Let's resolve the issue now. The camel is at the door."

4.2 EIDC
Larry Jacobs was thanked for developing a letter being circulated among forty community organizations to address ongoing concerns regarding the operation of EIDC.

4.3 Street Furniture Committee
The Street Furniture Committee continues to investigate and evaluate proposals. The Committee's report will be forthcoming in the future.

Meeting adjourned at 8:38 pm.

Minutes taken by Norman Kulla in the absence of the secretary.

Next PPCC Meeting, February 27 in the Oak Room at Mort?s, 1035 Swarthmore.

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Minutes of February 27th, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

-George Wolfberg, -Arthur Mortell, -Patti Post, -MaurizioVecchione,
-Ronald Silverton, - Barbara Kohn, -Norman Kulla, -Larry Jacobs, - Todd Ferrier,
-Stuart Muller, -Jean Gold Friedman, - Marguerite Perkins Mautner, -Bob Karl, -Tony Sain, - Ted Mackie, - Lorraine Oshins, - Richard Bletcher, - Jennifer Cron

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:

The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 Adoption of Minutes:

The Minutes of the prior meeting were adopted as corrected. A correction is noted as received from Stuart Muller. Patti Post moved and Stuart Muller seconded. Motion was accepted unanimously.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurer's Report

As of 2.27.03, there are $7,396.85 in the PPCC checking account and $4,777.60 in the savings account.

3.2 Selection of Area Representatives Alternates

There continue to be vacancies in areas 6 & 7

3.3 Status of Organizational Representative designations

There are no representatives from the Chamber of Commerce. Tony Sain to assume Education co-alternate.

3.4 Final Call for Community Service Award Nominations

Deadline is March 14th for nominations to be received by George Wolfberg.

3.5 Green LA - DWP Meeting on March 27

A meeting notice has been received relating to solar energy and energy efficiency - contact George Wolfberg if interested.

3.6 PPCC 30th Anniversary Event, March 13, 2003

The PPCC will be celebrating its 30th anniversary at the next meeting, on March 14th. The celebration will coincide with the PPCC meeting again in the library. Councilwoman Miscikowski will be in attendance; PPCC would like to invite all prior Chairs to attend as well. The State Assemblywoman Pavley's office also indicates attendance.

3.7 Illegal dumping on Palisades Drive

Stuart Muller reports that there are hundreds of blue-green bags in piles around Palisades Drive. The Councilwoman's office has received a complaint and will report back.

3.8 Removal of Temescal Storm Drain Construction signs

Stuart Muller reports that signs still remain in the Temescal storm drain construction area because testing of the new systems is on going. This is expected to last 60 days. After that, they will be repaving Temescal for about 600 ft. from the base.

3.9 Palisades Elementary

The School has provided the PPCC with their School Safety Plan. Tony Sain took the plan for review.

3.10 Area Planning Commission Meeting re: YMCA

The YMCA proposal was granted and residents expect to appeal to the APC on March 19 at 4:30PM - APC meeting will occur at the Parking Enforcement Building on Exposition Blvd. The grounds for appeal are the lack of requirements for the EIR.

3.11 Getty Construction

The Councilwoman's office announced that a public hearing will be held, at a date to be announced by the Building and Safety Commission, relating to the routes for the excavation work at the Getty. The PPCC has requested the Councilwoman's office to advise us when the hearing date/time is set.

3.12 Announcements from the Councilwoman's office

The Councilwoman's office reported that they will waive the library use fee normally charged by the Library for use of its meeting hall, in connection with future PPCC meetings, on grounds that the PPCC is a community service group.

In response to the issues raised by the PPCC in relation to filming in the Palisades, the EIDC has offered to come and address the community concerns. The PPCC will take the offer under advisement.

3.13 Announcement from the LA PD

The LA Police Department invites all residents to attend the "Semi Annual Basic Car Meeting" on Wed. Mach 12 at 6:30PM at the Stoner Park Community Room, 1835 Stoner Avenue. Senior lead officers, patrol officers and detectives will be on hand. A presentation on the consent decree will be given.

3.14 Concerns about business practices on Swarthmore

A member of the public reported that McDonald Properties on Swarthmore has allegedly been refusing to renew leases of existing businesses on Swarthmore. Specifically Emerson cleaners was alleged to have lost its lease. Stuart Muller added that the landlord has had a history of not collecting trash and of leaving the alley parking surfaces poorly maintained. George Wolfberg commented that the trash pick up issue involves restriction due to noise.

3.15 Neighborhood Councils

George Wolfberg reported having attended an early notification group meeting. He can provide details if anyone is interested.

3.16 Vagrancy Problems

A report was made that a number of vagrancy incidents have occurred on Corsica Dr., as reported by the Palisades Post. The incidents included a burglary.

3.17 Insurance

George Wolfberg reported that the PPCC insurance is expiring and fees might be raised. Without objection Wolfberg stated that he would pay the new policy if the increase did not exceed 25%.

4. Old Business

Letter to Councilwoman re EIDC

Larry Jacobs has developed a standard letter to be sent by Community groups to their local Council member, the County, the Mayor, and the Controller. This letter was developed in cooperation with 150 representatives of over 90 community organizations including Community Councils, Associations. Larry Jacobs is asking the PPCC and HOA to endorse the letter.

Larry Jacobs moved to authorize the PPCC to send the letter to Cindy Miscikowski. . Marguerite Parking Mautner seconded. The motion carried unanimously.

4.2. Promotion of the 430 Commuter line - an update

DOT representatives Phil Akers and bus rider/ expert marketing volunteer Steve Lantz reported that the DOT had run an ad in the Downtown News, although the ad was nonspecific to the Palisades. The marketing program was held up by DOT's changes in contractors, which occurred on Feb 2nd. A new schedule/brochure has been prepared, (draft samples were circulated) and the DOT is asking for help in distributing printed copies to the community. Additionally DOT is planning an ad in the Palisades Post.

A number of Board members offered spelling and technical corrections to the draft schedule/flier. DOT indicates it will update the document. Arthur Mortell indicated that Kehilliat Israel is shown as a Park & Ride location, and he very much doubts whether the Temple has any available parking. DOT indicated it would take it out. Patti Post advised DOT to contact the Chamber of Commerce to effect distribution at local businesses. Members of the audience also indicated they would do grass root distribution.

DOT indicated that current publicity had increased ridership slightly, or approximately 3-5 new riders.

Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 8:35 p.m

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Minutes of March 13, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

-George Wolfberg, -Arthur Mortell, -Patti Post, -Harry Sondheim, -Kurt Toppel, -Barbara Kohn, -Norma Spak, -Todd Ferrier, -Larry Jacobs -Stuart Muller, -Paul Glasgall, -Richard Blumenberg, -Tony Sain, -Ron Silverton, -Ted Mackie, -Mary Cole, -Norman Kulla, -Marguerite Perkins Mautner, -Sam Stigler, -Gilbert Dembo, -Lorraine Oshins, -Richard Bletcher, -Bob Jacobson

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:
The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. in the Library Community Room with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2.0 PPCC Anniversary Observed
The Chair began by thanking Councilwoman Cindy Miscikowski for facilitating use of the new Library Community Room to celebrate PPCC's 30th Anniversary, and hold regular meetings in the future. Although she was unable to attend, the Chair also thanked Bobbi Farberow for making Mort's Oak Room the PPCC's home away from home during construction of the new library. A plaque from the PPCC Board will be presented to Bobbi at the nearest opportunity.

Prior PPCC chairs' Bob Schibel (1978-79), Gloria (Stout) Johnson Nedell (1979-80), Joan Graves (1987-89), Flo Elfant (1989-90), Randy Young (1992-94), Shirley Haggstrom (1996-98) and Harry Sondheim (2000-2002) were in attendance and offered historical perspective with their congratulations. Letters of congratulations from the first chair Robert Abernethy (1973) and chair Sandy Schaefer (1983-85). were read aloud by the Chair.

Cindy Miscikowski presented a certificate of recognition on behalf of the City Council, Viet Tran presented a certificate on behalf of Mayor Hahn, and Jenny Toder presented a certificate from the State Assembly on behalf of Assemblywoman Fran Pavley.

All participants noted the spirit of democracy and community over 30 years of dedicated advocacy by and for the citizens of the Palisades now serves as the model for neighborhood councils for all of the Los Angeles.

3.0 Adoption of Minutes:
The Minutes of the prior meeting, February 27, were not submitted.

4.0 Announcements and Concerns:

4.1 Treasurer?s Report
As of Thursday, March 13, 2003 the Council had $6,253.93 in checking account and $4,777.60 in savings account

4.2 Selection of Area Representatives

Laurie Frost was unanimously approved as Alternate Area 6 Representative.
4.3 Status of Organizational Representative designation
Mary Cole was welcomed back to the Board as representative of the Chamber of Commerce.

4.4 Golden Sparkplug Award Update
The Chair announced nominations would be accepted up until 3a.m. Saturday, March 15, 2003. Ted Mackie was appointed Chair of the Golden Sparkplug Award Committee, and Barry Kurtz, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, and Norman Kulla were appointed to the committee. Criteria and procedure are available on PPCC's website, www.pp90272.org.

4.5 Early Morning Trash Removal Adjacent to Residential Zone
Todd Ferrier stated he had received complaints from Pam Halderman and others that every morning there is commercial trash pick-up circa 6:15 a.m. to 6:30 a.m. A discussion ensued in which it was noted that the Code provides that construction may not commence before 7 a.m. in residential neighborhoods. Reserve Officer Mark.Dundore appeared on behalf of Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale. Officer Dundore reported that the Code proscribes trash pick-up before 6 a.m. and after 9 p.m. He introduced himself as someone who grew up in and lived in the Palisades for thirty years. He will be in the Palisades to assist Officer Ragsdale four days a week. He reported that Officer Ragsdale has contacted Consolidated Refuse who is the sole commercial trash collector in the Palisades. Consolidated has agreed not to collect prior to 6:30 a.m.
Stuart Muller moved, and Marguerite Perkins Mautner seconded, a motion that unanimously carried authorizing a letter be written to the Chamber of Commerce on behalf of the PPCC Board expressing concern about trash pick-up for merchants near residences and requesting restrictions on early morning pick-ups.   Todd Ferrier agreed to write the letter.

4.6 Complaint of Excessive Location Filming Impacting Residents on El Medio
Larry Jacobs reported that progress is being made on recourse for neighbors with complaints of excessive filming. Note: Cindy Miscikowski in her remarks congratulated Larry on his efforts. She also reported her intention to move that the Los Angeles City Council create a citizen oversight committee or commission for the EIDC in the near future.
A discussion regarding excessive filming on the 500, 600, 800 & 900 blocks of El Medio ensued. On the positive, residents Elaine & John Rabuchin of 650 El Medio have delivered to neighbors a letter thanking the, for their patience and announcing their intention to limit future filming at their home in the interest of continuing good relations.

4.7 Trash left on Palisades Drive
Stuart Muller renewed his objection to the unsightly appearance of trash bags left on Palisades Drive approximately 1 mile north of Sunset. Paul Glasgall and Norman Kulla stated they had independently conferred with Edward Headington of Cindy Miscikowski's office about this problem. Paul and Norman explained that there has been a recurring problem of failed clean up of Palisades Drive by the City. In this instance, after many requests, the City had provided some clean-up but then failed to timely remove the refuse packaged in the offending trash bags.   Edward Headington reported that he had spoken to the appropriate parties in the City and that he expected the trash bags would be removed in the next several days.

4.8 City of Los Angeles Free Bicycle Rack Program
The Chair announced a free City bicycle rack program described in a letter from Councilwoman Miscikowski. The letter was provided to Bill Bruns who agreed to publish the contents in the Palisadian-Post.

4.9 Out-of-order restroom, Topanga State Park Trailhead @ Via Las Palmas
Gail Didden, a resident, complained that the bathrooms have been out-of-order for six months in the parking lot on Via Las Palmas that provides access to Topanga State Park Trailhead. She determined that new pumps are required and available for installation but an electrician has been unavailable for installation. The Chair has communicated with the responsible parties who have agreed to remedy this deficiency in the near future.

4.10 West LA APC Agenda
The Chair announced that the March 19 West LA APC Agenda contained two notable action items: 17045 Posatano Road (Staff recommends denial of an over-height fence of 5? versus 3? 6? allowed by code); and the lot split for the YMCA parcel (ten appeals have been filed in opposition to approval).

4.11 Chautauqua-Sunset Center Divider Project
Kurt Toppel announced that PRIDE had obtained necessary City approvals for the beautification of the concrete center divider on Sunset near Chautauqua.   $47,000 is available for the project and a $47,000 bid has been received to do the work. A minor project to remove the existing asphalt is needed. PRIDE will be working to assist Eagle Scouts candidates by identifying prospective community beautification projects.

4.12 Antique Street Market on Sundays
Edward Headington reported that the temporary permit for the Antique Street Market for Sunday on Antioch has expired. Jennifer McColm was not timely informed of efforts to obtain her input into the City's consideration of the extension or renewal of the permit. Mark Geller, a local jewelry merchant, has objected to the continuation of the Antique Street Market.
A discussion ensued questioning the merits of the Antique Market, including the disadvantage of having two streets blocked off on Sunday and the street market's competition with small local jewelry and antique merchants.
Ted Mackie and Harry Sondheim objected to the process, which did not appear to include any community, ie, PPCC Board, input, instead relying on private meetings with merchants opposing the street market and Jennifer McColm. Chairman Wolfberg commented that he had been contacted by one of the merchants last fall. This merchant objected to Antique vendors selling identical items to those carried in his store. In 20-20 hindsight, the Chair stated it would have been better to bring the matter to the Board at that time.
After discussion, the merits of the matter were deferred and it was agreed that all interested parties will be invited to the March 27, 2003 PPCC open public meeting to consider all viewpoints.

4.13 311 in service
Viet Tran inquired if anyone had been unable to use the new 24/7 311 City information service. Hearing no objection, Mr. Tran announced that by calling 311 a live person would promptly answer and refer any request for city service to the correct party.

5. Old Business
There was no old business.

Meeting adjourned at 8:38 pm.
Minutes taken by Norman Kulla in the absence of the secretary.

Next PPCC Meeting, March 27, 2003 in the Library Community Room, located at 861 Alma Real.

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Minutes of March 27, 2003.

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors):

George Wolfberg, Patti Post, Harry Sondheim, Paul Glasgall, Ronald R. Silverton, Norman Kulla, Larry Jacobs, Todd Ferrier, Stuart Muller, Laurie Frost, Mary Cole, Carl Mellinger, Alice Karl, Tony Sain, Gilbert Dembo, Lorraine Oshins, Bob Jacobson

1. Introduction of Board and Audience
The Chair called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M. with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.

2. Adoption of Minutes for Meetings of February 27, and March 13, 2003
The minutes for the February 27 meeting were not available and were continued. The March 13 minutes were approved as corrected. [Spelling of Jenny Toder's name]

3. Announcements and Concerns
3.1 Treasurer's Report
The Treasurer reported as of March 27th '03 a Checking account balance of $11,114.34, and a Savings balance $4,778.38.

3.2 Selection of Area Representative Alternates
This matter was deferred.

3.3 Announcements from City Officials
Edward Headington from Councilmember Miscikowski's office reported on various topics. [First] was the issue regarding a Drop-off/Pickup parking section for the area that curves around the old gym at the Recreational Center. Edward reported the center could only accommodate a partial drop-off/pickup area because of emergency access requirements. However D.O.T. would allow 1 section for a 5 min Drop-off/Pickup. Officer Ragsdale reported both the police and DOT would patrol this area.
[Second] Edward reported that Cindy Miscikowski introduced a motion regarding restructuring the EIDC and filming guidelines. The motion is to incorporate Neighborhood Councils as an advisory role during said restructuring. Currently the motion is at committee and by no means is a "slam dunk". There has already been letters of opposition by groups like MPAA. As soon as more is learned Edward will report back to PPCC.
[Third] Edward reported on the signs that read 'patrolled by ADT/ Bel Air' are not legal as they have a Private advertisement on a Public right-of-way. A discussion ensued lead my Paul Glasgall on the sign located in the Highlands' median. He reported that the sign has been there for 10 years, and the Highlands will fight to have it remain. A reference to the sign in the Huntington was brought up. However it was noted by George W. that the Huntington sign does not mention the company that patrols the area, and it was printed by DOT. However the D.O.T. no longer does these signs for neighborhoods. The Chair asked Edward to use his influence to delay ripping out the signs before discussion with the PPCC. Edward reported he would talk to Lisa Gritzner, Cindy's chief deputy about the sign in the Highlands.
[Fourth] Edward reported that PRIDE had requested City support for the Sunset-Chautauqua median improvement project. PRIDE has raised the entire cost of the project, less the dig out and removal of the asphalt. . Edward reported he is working with the City to see if the City can do the jack hammering in support of this improvement.

Officer Chris Ragsdale reported on
[First] the issue of the early trash pick-up and leaf blowing. He reported his squad is moving into enforcement efforts at the location specifically targeting times/dates of reported violations. He reported he is still in communications with Consolidated Refuse Co and with property owners to continue to attempt to gain their voluntary compliance.
[Secondly] Officer Ragsdale reported that issues related to the war have resulted in Police resources to be assigned "Critical Sites" on the Westside such as DWP reservoirs as well as some places of worship. However, neighbors should soon begin to get back to normal quality of service and if they recognize a decline in service it is due to units being drawn out during time of war.

Traffic Engineer Mo Blorfroshan summarized the status of issues brought up at the January 23rd meeting and answered questions. He reported on various intersections in the Palisades.
[First] he reported that the Dept. approved a left turn signal at Sunset and Via de la Paz going westbound. Additionally now the Dept. will consider a simultaneous left turn signal at the same intersection going eastbound. While this project does not strictly meet the DOT warrants, he has been delegated to authority to approve the intersection improvement and he has done so. Regarding the Lake Shrine illegal left turn problem on to Sunset, delineators and concrete dividers will be installed to eliminate this unsafe practice.
[Third] Intersection on Palisades Dr., and Palisades Circle has a "resting red signal" at night and during the day will turn red for 4 seconds if car is going over 35mph.
[Fourth] Mo reported on the parking issue outside the Post Office. He reported that the Red Curb has been repainted to clearly show the parking restriction. Then a discussing ensued regarding this issue. Members of the PPCC Board had many proposals to fix the issue of people using the Tow Away space to run into the Post Office or pick up fast food, such as adding more 15 min. spots. Mo will look at the number of 15-minute meters. Board member Carl Mellinger asked Mo to write a letter to parking enforcement regarding what can be done with the parking issue outside the Post Office on Sunset. Officer Ragsdale reported he will continue to patrol this area and he feels this is the best way to change driver behaviors with parking in this Tow Away.
[Fifth] from a proposal by the PPCC Board Mo said he would look into placing one 15 min. parking meter in front of Blockbuster on the eastside Monument from Sunset.

PPCC Board member Larry Jacobs gave an update of filming issues. Larry reported that he received a letter encouraging people to testify to the City Council regarding Cindy Miscikowski's motion on this issue. Thus Larry wrote an email noting that he has over 25 people who want to testify. Larry then mentioned he wrote Cindy a personal letter regarding the relationship between the EIDC and the City Council, asking for a total restructuring of the board with no conflict between the City Council and the Board of Supervisors.

Alice Karl invited Board members to the Garden Tour to be held on April 6th. She handed out flyers to interested persons, and has signs for merchants to set in their storefronts.

Board Member Gilbert Dembo reported about the Street Furniture issue. He reported that his 5 person committee decided to keep the 4 existing street shelters, and wait until PRIDE moves into this Street Program to make a determination on adding others. However, Gilbert noted that he would discuss with Byron Brooks the students' desires regarding bus shelters. Carl Mellinger, a member of Gilbert's committee stated that he had not been contacted by the committee. The Street Furniture issue will be on the agenda at the next PPCC Board meeting.

Chair Wolfberg briefly summarized several items:
[First], A letter was received from the Library Association to congratulate the PPCC for 30years of fine service to the community.
[Second] George Wolfberg reported on Southern California COMPASS the planning process to set in motion a guide for dealing with the region's future. COMPASS will identify a regional strategy to address growth and change. COMPASS asks for any support you can give to assist in our region's future growth. Many public meetings will be held on this issue over the next six weeks. Web site: www.socalcompass.org.
[Third] Wolfberg reported that two trees are missing at 16161 Sunset planted by Palisades Beautiful. The City is investigating the disappearance and will inform Wolfberg when new news arrives.
[Fourth] reported that the Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan is planning for trails in the Santa Monica Mountains Recreational Area. So far, 284 Miles have been surveyed for public trails, and service roads. To view the recreational trail user survey slide presentation go to http://www.nps.gov/samo/trails. Gil Dembo stated that the Temescal Canyon Association has be working on this issue and will follow up.
[Fourth] The Congress of Neighborhoods is being held on April 5th at LA Convention Center. Please contact George Wolfberg to join in attendance.
[Fifth] Board agreed to purchase an advertisement in the Post's 75th Anniversary issue for July 31st. The ad will be ? page and have a 15% discount off regular pricing.
[Sixth] The Citizen of the Year Dinner, will be held on April 24th at Riviera CC. Honored will be both Golden Spark Plug and Citizen of the Year winners. The cost is $57.50. No PPCC Board meeting will be held on this date. George Wolfberg read a brief note from Post editor Bill Bruns encouraging one and all to attend this community tradition that is sponsored on a break-even basis by the paper. See Post for further details.

3.4 Golden Sparkplug Award-Update
The chair congratulated the winners: Larry Jacobs, Carole Kenney, Nelson Clay Willis who will be honored at Citizen of the Year banquet April 24.

3.5 Clearwater Mural
Stuart Muller briefed the Council on plans to upgrade and complete the Clearwater Mural at Sav-On. [First] Stuart showed pictures demonstrating that the mural is suffering damage from Skateboarders -"grinding" and Dumpsters - scraping. He is working on a number of proposed solutions to repair and prevent further damage. No firm decision has been made regarding what will best serve these two purposes. However, Stuart reported he is very passionate about this project and will continue to diligently pursue its preservation as he has done for the past 6 years when he started the project. Additionally Stuart reported on completing the mural on the Reyes Abobe Panels and having the support of Save-On and possibly some of the vendors to support an Ice cream social if and when new mural is completed. The board agreed to support the plan and application for grant funding for completion of the mural. PRIDE will supervise the project.

3.6 Proposal for Board handbook
George Wolfberg passed out an outline of a proposed Board handbook. Board members support the project in a brief discussion of the need for such a document to guide and inform future Chairs and board members.

4. New Business
4.1 Discussion of the Process for approving the Antique's Market.
Antioch businessman Mark Geller summarized the concerns of most of the merchants on Antioch Street. The issue was two-pronged; [First] was the concern of the some of the PPCC Board who felt such issues should be brought up in front of the Board prior to final decisions. However, the point was moot because the market closure resulted from the termination in January of the permit. The permit holder was Jennifer McColm, who was invited to attend this meeting and elected not to attend. . It was concluded that better communication between PPCC Board and merchants on Antioch is needed in the future to rectify such issues [Secondly] Mr. Geller noted that the merchants on Antioch had a petition of 13 out of 14 merchants to no longer hold the antique market, due to lack of true antiques being sold and merchant and market vendors competing by selling the same merchandise. Mark noted that the Antioch merchants are not so much opposed to having an antique market on Antioch as they are having a market that does not sell antiques and calling it an antique market. Thus Mark proposed, if ever a new proposal to have an antique market he would like to see a committee verify that true antiques are what is to be sold.

Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 P.M.. The next meeting of the PPCC Board will be held in the Library Community Room on April 10, 2003 at 7:00 P.M.

Minutes taken by Todd Ferrier sitting in for the Secretary.

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Minutes, Meeting of May 8, 2003

Board Members Present (including Alternates and Advisors)

George Wolfberg, Harry Sondheim, Barbara Kohn, Norma Spak, Margaret Goff, Larry Jacobs, Stuart Muller, Paul Glasgall, Katy Lain, Jean Gold Friedman, Tony Sain, Ted Mackie, Norman Kulla, Ron Silverton, Marguerite Perkins Mautner, Sam Stigler, Gilbert Dembo, Lorraine Oshins, Richard Bletcher, Bob Jacobson, Scott Wagenseller

1.0 Introduction of Board and Audience:
The Chair called the Board meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Library Community Room with the reading of the purpose of the PPCC as stated in its Bylaws. Members of the Board and audience introduced themselves.?

2.0 Adoption of Minutes for Meeting of April 10, 2003
The minutes of the April 10, 2003 meeting were not received.

3.0 Announcements and Concerns:

3.1 Treasurer's Report
The Treasurer was not present and no report was presented.

3.2 Selection of Area Representatives Update -No update.

3.3 Announcements
Edward Headington of Councilman's Miscikowski's office reported that the Councilwoman's office was working with Bob Jeffers of PRIDE to facilitate demolition at City expense of median on Sunset at Chautauqua to save expense for PRIDE's median beautification project at that location.
Lorraine Oshins announced that three members of founding Clearwater family would review the history of the Palisades at the Historical Society's May 21, 2003 annual meeting to be held at Aldersgate Lodge, 925 Haverford Avenue at 7:30 pm.
Senior Lead Officer Chris Ragsdale reported upon recent vandalism at Canyon and Palisades Elementary Schools. He requested that the community report all incidents of criminal behavior as extra patrols and attention can only be deployed if LAPD has knowledge.
Scott Wagenseller announced that Saturday was Law Enforcement Day and that longtime Palisades community leader R.B.Wilken would become the Palisades first Honorary Sheriff. He invited everyone to join the festivities at noon Saturday on Via de la Paz.

3.4 EIDC Progress
Larry Jacobs reported that a major step forward in renegotiating the process for neighborhood input into EIDC's film permitting would take place before the Education & Neighborhood Committee of the City Council on Monday, May 12, 2003 at 10 a.m. on the tenth floor of City Hall [later moved to the third floor Council Chambers].? The Chair agreed to personally attend.

3.5? Report of the Nominating Committee
In the absence of Nominating Committee Chair Patti Post, Marguerite Perkins Mautner gave the report of the nominating committee. Other committee members were Mary Cole, Todd Ferrier and Harry Sondheim.? The following are nominated as officers of the Board for one year terms to take office on July 1, 2003:? George Wolfberg, Chair; Arthur Mortell, Vice Chair; Patti Post, Treasurer; and Christina Porter, Secretary.? Nominations are open until the June 12 PPCC meeting, when the election shall take place.? Any board member wishing to nominate a candidate to any of the officer positions can make a nomination until such time as the nominations are closed.? The Chair will confer with the existing student representatives about continuing service and report back to the Board.

3.6Proposed 3-lot subdivision @ 425 Mt. Holyoke
Barbara Schelbert, a neighbor to proposed project, appeared to request the Board's support in opposing the proposed 3-lot subdivision at 425 Mt. Holyoke.? She reported this lot has a long history dating back to 1978 when a permit was initially approved for one house.? The Chair will place the matter on the Board's May 22 agenda and to invite the owner/applicant to appear.

4.0 Old Business

4.1 Early Morning Trash Removal Adjacent to Residential Zone
Pam Halderman thanked the Board for its recent efforts to support later daily commercial trash pick-up behind Swarthmore. Unfortunately, the pick-up that formerly began at 5:30 a.m. now begins at 6 a.m.. This is still too early.? The neighbors request that trash pick-up begin not earlier than 7:30 a.m.Stuart Muller encouraged Ms. Halderman to approach the trash collectors clients, the merchants, to request later pick-up.? Discussion ensued.? It was noted that there was later trash pick-up on the opposite side of Sunset, near Robek Juice and Noah's Bagel. There was a suggestion to obtain noise level measuring equipment to check if the dbl level exceeded noise ordinance requirements.? Ms. Halderman agreed to make these efforts and return to the Board if she desired some further action by the Board.? In addition, the Chair will send a letter to Mort?s seeking assistance.

4.2 Zoning Appeal, AT&T Riviera CC Cellular Tower
Mary Tanner reported that the hearing officer at the zoning appeal approved an exemption from the height limitation and approved the AT&T monopalm cellular tower at Riviera.? She requested that the Board restate its opposition to the 62" cellular tower at Riviera as violative of the 30' height limitation.. On motion by Stuart Muller, seconded by Marguerite Perkins Mautner, the Board unanimously reaffirmed its support for the 30' height limitation and authorized the Chair to write a letter of support to such effect.

4.3 Street Furniture

Gil Dembo reported that the Street Furniture Committee, in conjunction with PRIDE, had requested that Viacom-Decaux, owner of Palisades' various bus shelters, replace the existing twenty year old bus shelters with new shelters.? The letter also notified Viacom that the community was not interested in additional shelters but would like to move the location of several existing ones if new replacement shelters would be installed.? Viacom responded that they would be unable to install new shelters for another six years. Mr. Dembo further reported that PRIDE has written a letter to Norman Bench requesting removal of all bus benches on the north side of Sunset because they are unsightly and unused. Mr. Dembo noted that Norman is in violation of its contract terms requiring that 10% of all bench advertisements have a public service message.

5.0 New Business

Proposed speed humps.
Paul Konkirati and Mario Enriquez of the Los Angeles Department of Transportation appeared and responded to questions about approved proposed speed humps at:? Almalfi Dr., between Spoleto Dr. to Upper Mesa Rd.; Almalfi Dr., between Romany Dr. to Napoli Dr.; Almalfi Dr.between Romany Dr. to Sorrento Dr.; Radcliffe Ave., Bowdoin St. to Haverford Ave.; Ocampo Dr., Almoloya Dr. to Drummond St.? The City's approval of speed humps for all locations was approved following delivery of documentation evidencing approval by owners of 75% of the property frontage in each block as well as approval by traffic engineers following traffic study.? The humps are to be constructed in form and height that satisfy fire department criteria.? On motion of Gil Dembo, seconded by Tony Sain, the Board supported installation of the speed humps as approved by LA DOT.

School Security Update
Tony Sain, Education Representative, reported that there were increasing security concerns at Canyon after discovery of broken beer & broken alcoholic bottles on campus.? LAUSD Police Sergeant Armando Farias apologized for security lapse at Canyon's most recent annual celebration of Cinco de Mayo.? He explained that budgetary constraints restricted deployment.? However, he urged that any reports of trouble will be responded to if made directly to the Watch Commander at 213-625-6631.? He indicated that LAUSD officers coordinate their efforts with LAPD.

Meeting Room Acoustics
Ted Mackie brought up the issue of room acoustics, which has been a continuing problem.? He asked a neighbor who is an acoustical engineer to look at the room and learned that the installation of sound-dampening material on the hard surface above the picture hanging area would solve the problem.? While using amplified sound also would solve the problem, the provision of numerous microphones would not be cost effective.? The Chair will follow up and contact the Central Library Administration.

Meeting adjourned at 8:30 pm.
Minutes taken by Norman Kulla in the absence of the secretary.

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